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Bob, I suspect a few things would have helped. Getting the system in the middle of the room width, rather than purely to one half of my 27' width...as was, one spkr 2' from an LP rack, the other 14' from the other side wall...I'm sure this never helped. Big drapes on the windows, substantial rugs everywhere, would have contributed.

My self same system in this dedicated space, nothing optimised, was as dramatic an indicator that my previous acoustics were poor beyond measure.

One starts a Magico thread and never imagines it can become about set up and room issues with a Zu system. Reminds me of the stories of Michael Jackson's transformation from the boy in Jackson Five to the King of Pop.
 

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One starts a Magico thread and never imagines it can become about set up and room issues with a Zu system. Reminds me of the stories of Michael Jackson's transformation from the boy in Jackson Five to the King of Pop.

I didn't notice I thought this was the Zu thread, oh yeah, it's a Magico threado_O
 

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Putting on my forensic lawyer's cape, I don't believe I mentioned Z* once. Just that this room so reminds me of my old space. Even this Z* fanboy is not stupid enough to mention Z* on an M9 thread. Happy for others to.
 
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Putting on my forensic lawyer's cape, I don't believe I mentioned Z* once. Just that this room so reminds me of my old space. Even this Z* fanboy is not stupid enough to mention Z* on an M9 thread. Happy for others to.
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Hi Ron,

The M9s were, for the last octave in music, not designed to "require" the M9 as the M9s go down to 18HZ. For those that want to go down to 15Hz, then yes you can add Q18(s). The Q subs work with the M9s if desired.

I could see adding either Q15's or 18's for HT applications. I could see the SCC center channel, the M9's for R/L, two M2 or M3s for rears:) (sides as well) and then a pair of the Q subs for LFE. I'm actually talking to a client about this type of set up for an upcoming new home in '21/'22.

It all depends on the user's sonic preferences as well as the room, many options are available.

Thank you, Bob.
 
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So, do we get a hint of what this audioporn photo is actually? The true room of the new M9 installation with the M9s projected into the space? A mystery loft owner who already posses the M9s? Pure fantasy? Can't wait till there is someone who can compare the sound of the M9 with the obvious competitor from another large American speaker manufacturer that sells a speaker system at a similar price. Hey Carlos, if you want company on your road trip to NYC, I am up!
 

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So, do we get a hint of what this audioporn photo is actually? The true room of the new M9 installation with the M9s projected into the space? A mystery loft owner who already posses the M9s? Pure fantasy? Can't wait till there is someone who can compare the sound of the M9 with the obvious competitor from another large American speaker manufacturer that sells a speaker system at a similar price. Hey Carlos, if you want company on your road trip to NYC, I am up!

Prior to '21 the place to hear the M9s is at the factory showroom in CA. They are available to demo now.
 

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Hi Ron,

The M9s were, for the last octave in music, not designed to "require" the M9 as the M9s go down to 18HZ. For those that want to go down to 15Hz, then yes you can add Q18(s). The Q subs work with the M9s if desired.

I could see adding either Q15's or 18's for HT applications. I could see the SCC center channel, the M9's for R/L, two M2 or M3s for rears:) (sides as well) and then a pair of the Q subs for LFE. I'm actually talking to a client about this type of set up for an upcoming new home in '21/'22.

It all depends on the user's sonic preferences as well as the room, many options are available.
Well you can always add subwoofers to help smooth out room peaks / nulls. Those giant woofers are certainly going to exacerbate room modes relative to the 2 speakers' locations.
 
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Well you can always add subwoofers to help smooth out room peaks / nulls. Those giant woofers are certainly going to exacerbate room modes relative to the 2 speakers' locations.

Yep, I'm talking to someone about M9's now with two each Q18subs. Depends on the person/room/personal preference and then also if HT is involved.
 

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Because the A5 is the first now deliverable speaker in the Magico line-up with a "taste" of the technologies that were developed for the M9.
The A5 illustrates transparency, resolution and clarity in the midrange and mid-bass that this set of old ears has never experienced prior. I was stunned to first hear it. But not stunned enough to realize how special what I was hearing had been realized.

With all due respect, are you saying that you've never experienced the transparency, resolution and clarity in the midrange and mid-bass with any of the other Magico models including their top tier offerings? I assume you've been a Magico dealer for awhile and have heard their previous offerings.

Again with respect, I also note that the MSRP of the A9's is close to the limited edition Wilson Chronosonic. $750K +/-. Is that just a coincidence or is Alan keeping up with the Joneses? Seems to be a common occurrence / practice in hi end audio pricing to test the upper limit of what the uber expensive market will bare.

Good luck with finding a new retail space.

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With all due respect, are you saying that you've never experienced the transparency, resolution and clarity in the midrange and mid-bass with any of the other Magico models including their top tier offerings? I assume you've been a Magico dealer for awhile and have heard their previous offerings.

Again with respect, I also note that the MSRP of the A9's is close to the limited edition Wilson Chronosonic. $750K +/-. Is that just a coincidence or is Alan keeping up with the Joneses? Seems to be a common occurrence / practice in hi end audio pricing to test the upper limit of what the uber expensive market will bare.

Good luck with finding a new retail space.

Best.

The A5's and M9s are an evolution of what Magico has been doing over the years utilizing the latest Magico developed technologies. Magico has created a lot of wonderful speakers over the years and there are probably a few thousand happy owners enjoying music with all of the previous Magico models, just like thousands of people are enjoying music via other brands of speakers.

What I am saying is if anyone is interested and has the opportunity give the A5s or M9s a listen.

Imho Alon/Magico has never followed anyone regarding technology or pricing.
 

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With all due respect, are you saying that you've never experienced the transparency, resolution and clarity in the midrange and mid-bass with any of the other Magico models including their top tier offerings? I assume you've been a Magico dealer for awhile and have heard their previous offerings.

Again with respect, I also note that the MSRP of the A9's is close to the limited edition Wilson Chronosonic. $750K +/-. Is that just a coincidence or is Alan keeping up with the Joneses? Seems to be a common occurrence / practice in hi end audio pricing to test the upper limit of what the uber expensive market will bare.

Good luck with finding a new retail space.

Best.

Regarding pricing I personally have sold/installed/supported 10+ Goldmund Epilogue and Apologue systems starting in 2004 through 2019 where the speakers price exceeded $750K. High priced speakers have been around for a long time.
 
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Thanks for the clarification. Yes, Goldmund has been an outlier for some time but there's been a major increase and new wave of uber priced speakers over the past several years. Example. How many speakers are now priced in the $200 to $300K region (or above) compared with five years ago? Sorry you couldn't answer my first question. FWIW, I have no axe to grind with Magico but am curious as to why the A5 and M9's are so different in transparency, resolution and clarity from previous models.
 
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Thanks for the clarification. Yes, Goldmund has been an outlier for some time but there's been a major increase and new wave of uber priced speakers over the past several years. Example. How many speakers are now priced in the $200 to $300K region (or above) compared with five years ago? Sorry you couldn't answer my first question. FWIW, I have no axe to grind with Magico but am curious as to why the A5 and M9's are so different in transparency, resolution and clarity from previous models.
From what I’ve read its the new technology used in the drivers that makes the difference. I’m a delighted user of S1MkIIs in my near-field system and I’m already anticipating the MkIII with the new driver technology
 

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From what I’ve read its the new technology used in the drivers that makes the difference. I’m a delighted user of S1MkIIs in my near-field system and I’m already anticipating the MkIII with the new driver technology

Yes, the evolution of the driver technology at Magico is paramount in the latest models. In addition cabinet and crossover implementations in the A5 and then an all out assault realized in the M9s do deliver excellent sonics.
Thanks for the clarification. Yes, Goldmund has been an outlier for some time but there's been a major increase and new wave of uber priced speakers over the past several years. Example. How many speakers are now priced in the $200 to $300K region (or above) compared with five years ago? Sorry you couldn't answer my first question. FWIW, I have no axe to grind with Magico but am curious as to why the A5 and M9's are so different in transparency, resolution and clarity from previous models.

As Blackmorec said it IS the evolution in the driver technology, but also crossover and cabinet technology evolution at Magico, especially when you look at the all out assault with the M9.

I should clarify that because of my excitement with the A5s and what I hear from them I have probably overstated how different they are vs. previous Magico models. Just as the M series was an evolution of from previous Magico speaker models/lines, the A5 although the leader of the pack in the A series has further evolved the Magico sonic presentation in certain areas.

Of course the M series has the advanced tweeter, cabinet and crossover in comparison with the A5, but the A5 with the new advancements that were derived from the M9 development especially with the driver technologies makes it a must listen if interested in Magico speakers.
 

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I'd love to see a shootout between A5, S3 mk2 and M2 just for fun.

I just did one for a customer with A5 and M2 yesterday. They both sounded really good was their comment. The customer's comment was a bit different but both very good.
 

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I just did one for a customer with A5 and M2 yesterday. They both sounded really good was their comment. The customer's comment was a bit different but both very good.

Which is truly incredible. The fact that the M2 doesn't blow the A5 out of the water is really shocking given the A5 is what less than 1/3 the price of the M2 ?
 

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