2019 Corvette C7 Stingray Convertible

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When I was around 16 years old the only thing I wanted in life was a red Ferrari convertible -- it didn't matter which one -- whichever one was sold when decades into the future I would hope to be able to afford to buy one would be just fine.

I grew up disliking Corvettes. I always thought that Corvettes were made out of the kind of plastic that gave plastic a bad name.

I thought a Corvette was a cheap way to get high horsepower and a vroom vroom exhaust note. I always thought GM's Corvette "deal" was that you were paying not a lot of money for a great engine and drivetrain, but that there was no margin left to make the rest of the car refined, luxurious or even particularly hospitable.

A weird thing I noticed about Corvettes growing up was that while I often would observe BMWs and Mercedes and Porsches and Ferraris and Lamborghinis zooming along, it was unusual to see a Corvette going fast. Many Corvette drivers, for some reason, did not use their cars. Very odd.

I test drove a C5 along the way. It felt large on the outside, small on the inside (the opposite of the Mercedes SL550), and it felt a bit like I was driving a small, clunky truck that just happened to be able to go fast in a straight line. It was plastic-y on the inside, and it did not look well screwed together. It was not my cup of tea. I continued to long for a Ferrari convertible.

After that test drive I never really paid attention to later generations of Corvettes. I assumed they were still built to a carefully calculated price point which left no room for a great sports car in an absolute sense, but only a "relatively good sports car for the price."

Tinka wanted to upgrade Susie, her 2016 Volkswagen Beetle SEL Convertible. Tinka wanted something with some VROOM VROOM!

During the course of seeing a couple of C7 Convertibles, and test driving a C7 Stingray Convertible and a C7 Z06 Convertible, I learned that my long-standing generally negative view on Corvettes is outdated.

I now think the C7 is a great-looking car! I think that in 3LT trim the interior is very nice, with a lot of leather. It looks pretty well put together! I was very impressed!

We both thought a black Z06 widebody convertible we test drove was very cool-looking -- very much like a Batmobile -- but we were already struggling with the terrible visibility of the standard Stingray convertible. The C7 has the worst visibility I personally have experienced since I drove my friend's Lamborghini Diablo in the 1990s. (That car literally was terrifying to drive. It was wide and long and it got wider the further back you went! The rearview mirror was basically useless. You really could not see anything behind the side mirrors. Of course it didn't really matter since nobody's closing speed was likely to exceed your opening speed.)

Well . . . Tinka is now the very proud owner of a black 2019 C7 3LT Convertible. His name is Frank.

This car is gorgeous!

I drove it back from the dealer in Newport, CA, we purchased it at, which was great because I had almost two hours to familiarize myself with the car. In 3LT configuration the leather interior totally passes muster. Does it match the designo Napa leather interior of Gristoph, my 2019 SL550? No. But it's beautiful and plenty good enough.

The engine in this beast is fantastic! However, to achieve highly-contrived good gas mileage, the automatic transmission upshifts to eighth gear as soon as you're above about 20 miles an hour. So the tall gearing is constantly hiding the power of the engine. But if you step on the gas pedal, the transmission downshifts from 8th to 3rd . . . and you rocket away. You can also just keep the car in manual, as first gear is good from 0 to 75 mph.

This 2019 Corvette has 2019 technology. (My 2019 SL550 has 2015 technology, because Mercedes knew they were killing off my beloved 2 seat, retractable hardtop configuration, and did not bother to update the onboard technology.) I love the C7's heads-up display which shows navigation, speed and gear!

Tinka's car has the base suspension. I cannot believe how unbelievably comfortable is the base suspension, and yet the car still stays completely flat in corners! The C7 base suspension truly is remarkable! (I'm glad we did not get the adjustable Magnetic Ride Control suspension.)

When did Corvettes become genuinely and absolutely great cars?
 
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Congratulations Ron, that’s a great car and a whole lotta fun!
 
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Thank you!

Congratulate Tinka -- it's her car!
 
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Congratulations Ron, that’s a great car and a whole lotta fun!

The car is so much fun! And, unlike Italian exotics, I am not constantly worried about breaking something or leaking valuable fluids on the ground.
 
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The car is so much fun! And, unlike Italian exotics, I am not constantly worried about breaking something or leaking valuable fluids on the ground.
The C7 is very nice indeed.....however the C8 is on a whole different level...even the rear visibility with their strategically placed cameras provides all the rear visual information one needs for safe driving.....Their both extreme “fun rides” for not extreme $$$.....
Enjoy in good health.....
Cheers...
 

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pics or it didn't happen...
 
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congratulations Ron.I bought my first car at the age of 38 because all my money went on hifi.

Thank you!

You made the right decision!

I have sometimes played a distressing mental game with myself: if I could keep only one of the Ferrari or my big stereo, which would I keep?

I know I would keep the big stereo (but you have no idea how emotionally connected I am to that red car!).
 
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Congrats!

ALL Vettes are great cars, even the C5, it just has a horrendous economy-car interior. C6 is much better, the higher end Z06 and ZL1 models were some of the fastest cars in the world when introduced. C7 is an evolution, similar to the C6 but with a new direct-injected LT1 V8 with 460 hp. The base model is more than enough car for public roads, and the convertible version w/3LT option package is a just a great road car, it's fast, comfortable and luxurious.

My Camaro has most of the performance features of the C7 Grand Sport with a 6-sp manual in the Alpha chassis used by the Caddy CTS-V and others, so the 6th gen Camaros are now excellent sports cars a lot like a Vette in coupe form. I really love mine after owning it for nearly 3 years.

If you're looking for a regular sedan the new Caddy V-series cars just came out and are getting great reviews. Caddys can be optioned-up like German cars, they can get pricey but are still less vs BMW and Mercedes while offering better handling and overall performance.

C8 is a revolution, the Z06 is going to be amazing... it'll be back to NA using a V8 with a 9000 rpm redline, have over 600 hp and pricing will start under $100k. It's going to beat or match just about everything on the road regardless of price. And there will be later versions with a 1000-hp hybrid AWD version to compete with the top end exotics.
 

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Nice choice Tinka. I prefer the C7 to the C8. Those engines are bulletproof.
Thank you, Dave and Dan!

Dave, I knew you would know all about Corvette history and various generations!

Dan, I learned the hard way (with helpful prodding from MikeL when I visited him and I told him that Gunther (my 2009 SL550) was pushing 60,000 miles and my extended warranty expired) that as much as some of us may love German and Italian automobiles it is very risky financially to own them without an extended warranty.

The last year I had Gunther, who at that point in late 2019 had a market value of about $22,000, I had almost $3,000 in repairs to his Active Body Control suspension leveling system. Shortly before I sold him, out of the blue, I received a call from Mercedes-Benz graciously offering to sell me an extended warranty on him for sixteen thousand dollars ($16,000). That was the final piece of information which told me I had to sell him ASAP.*

Tinka was also considering a 2019 Porsche Boxster Convertible, but for that I definitely would have wanted some continuing original manufacturer warranty plus extended warranty.

I agree the C7 drivetrain is bulletproof. The C7 drivetrain has been in production for so long that I was very comfortable buying a Corvette without any significant remaining manufacturer warranty. (Still, we bought a 5 year extended warranty only because it was very reasonably priced -- which proves actuarially that unexpected repairs are unlikely.)

It is very nice to have nearly supercar performance in a vehicle about which I am not constantly worried in the back of my mind that we have to be very gentle with it because it might break at any time. (You would be embarrassed for me if you witnessed how slowly and gingerly I shift from neutral into first and then into second in Bellini, my 360!)

*I used Gunther (2009 SL550) as my daily driver for 10 years -- commuting, chores, errands and all. This time, I feel like Gristoph (2019 SL550) has to last me basically forever, so I have been driving even him only like a special weekend-only car for date nights and special events. Tinka thinks it's quite silly that I now have not one but two cars I rarely drive, and that with all of this beautiful automotive machinery we are very fortunate to have I basically live in Barney, our 2010 Ford Escape.
 
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ALL Vettes are great cars, even the C5, it just has a horrendous economy-car interior.

Respectfully, for me, if a car has a "horrendous economy-car interior" then it cannot qualify for me as a "great" car.

C8 is a revolution, the Z06 is going to be amazing... it'll be back to NA using a V8 with a 9000 rpm redline, have over 600 hp and pricing will start under $100k. It's going to beat or match just about everything on the road regardless of price. And there will be later versions with a 1000-hp hybrid AWD version to compete with the top end exotics.

I read just in the last several days that the C8 ZO6 is delayed at least until 2023.
 

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I read a few weeks ago that General Motors officially has decided that the C9 will return to a front-engine configuration.

I was hoping the C8 mid-engine design would endure through at least a couple of Corvette generations because I was hoping that Chevrolet would melt/smooth out some of the 13 sharp creases of the C8 body, which suggest to me that some styling committee answered every design question with another crease. In other words if you look at a side profile photo of the Ferrari 360 Modena side-by-side with a side profile photo of the C8, and you put the C8 in an oven and melted all of those creases, it would come out looking like a beautiful American version of the curvy and smooth 360, which I prefer the look of.
 
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Respectfully, for me, if a car has a "horrendous economy-car interior" then it cannot qualify for me as a "great" car.



I read just in the last several days that the C8 ZO6 is delayed at least until 2023.

C5s are great cars for driving, the Z06 version is very fast... so they are great to use for track cars where you may remove most of the interior anyways.

C8 ZO6 may be a '23 or '24 model at this point.

I read a few weeks ago that General Motors officially has decided that the C9 will return to a front-engine configuration.

I was hoping the C8 mid-engine design would endure through at least a couple of Corvette generations because I was hoping that Chevrolet would melt/smooth out some of the 13 sharp creases of the C8 body, which suggest to me that some styling committee answered every design question with another crease. In other words if you look at a side profile photo of the Ferrari 360 Modena side-by-side with a side profile photo of the C8, and you put the C8 in an oven and melted all of those creases, it would come out looking like a beautiful American version of the curvy and smooth 360, which I prefer the look of.

That is not true. C8 was a massive investment and a great success. They would kill the Vette before it returns to a front engine layout.
 

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That is not true. C8 was a massive investment and a great success. They would kill the Vette before it returns to a front engine layout.

Really? So this report, published on April 1, literally was an April fool's joke?


New design boss at GM, Joe Massa-Puzj (we Googled him - he's got Italian and Serbian blood), says that this decision has freed him up in many ways: "The front-engined Corvette is an icon, and putting the motor back where it belongs allows us as designers to play around more. We don't have to integrate vents and ducts along the profile now, and that means a sleeker, faster-looking machine."
 
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Really? So this report, published on April 1, literally was an April fool's joke?


New design boss at GM, Joe Massa-Puzj (we Googled him - he's got Italian and Serbian blood), says that this decision has freed him up in many ways: "The front-engined Corvette is an icon, and putting the motor back where it belongs allows us as designers to play around more. We don't have to integrate vents and ducts along the profile now, and that means a sleeker, faster-looking machine."

Yeah, it's an April fool's joke.

While front engine cars can be fast, and can be great cars, it's really not ideal. The C8 can do 0-60 in under 3s while even the C7 Z06 with 150 more hp isn't even close. Chevy has said the Vette needs to be mid-engine in order to improve on the C7.

I recently got to ride in a Porsche GT3... it's a compelling argument for putting the engine behind the driver! :) It made pretty much every other car I've ever been in feel a little lacking. The acceleration it can produce with the weight over the rear tires is pretty amazing.
 

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