Entreq Tellus grounding

[HK Panda]

The Apollo cables are the sweet spot in the Entreq range.They reduce the noise floor very effectively, improve resolution and give a really enjoyable musical sound. If you can stretch to the Apollo Infinitys you will be well rewarded.
Likewise the Olympus Ten. But to ground the negative speaker terminals you will need two of them plus the ground cables and a separate ground box and earth cable for the amp.

Not sure I understand that very last Suggestion. What do you mean a separate ground box and earth cable for the amp?

 

[Barry2013]

Not sure I understand that very last Suggestion. What do you mean a separate ground box and earth cable for the amp?

See my reply to you in post 3070 in this thread

 

[Cellcbern]

At the other end of the cost spectrum there's this:

Puritan Audio Labs GroundMaster CITY and RouteMaster system by Terry London

Ground Master From Puritan: Reducing Noise

Now you can hammer a copper rod into your garden, hook it up to your hi-fi and enjoy improved sound quality! “Eh?” you ask? Paul Rigby explains all as he reviews Puritan’s value for money, Ground Master One of the best ways to reduce nasty, veiling noise of all types from in and around your...

theaudiophileman.com

Wonder how it compares with Entreq?

Spoke to the folks at Archon Audio, a US dealer for the British Puritan Labs power conditioning line of products. They suggested I connect the signal grounds via unused rca port from my sacd player and amp to one Groundmaster City and the chassis of my Bybee Stealth power conditioner to a 2nd Groundmaster City.

 

[dts-99]

Not sure I understand that very last Suggestion. What do you mean a separate ground box and earth cable for the amp?

Please see my reply in #3073.

 

[HK Panda]

For the AMP, If I ground the negative speaker terminals, then I don't need to ground the signal cable, or the Chassis, is that correct? Just one box per device right? In the case of the speaker terminals just one box per each channel. And if I do that, then I don't also need to ground the spare XLR, or spare RCA also, is that right?

 

[dts-99]

For the AMP, If I ground the negative speaker terminals, then I don't need to ground the signal cable, or the Chassis, is that correct? Just one box per device right? In the case of the speaker terminals just one box per each channel. And if I do that, then I don't also need to ground the spare XLR, or spare RCA also, is that right?

Have you read my post #3073?

 

[HK Panda]

Have you read my post #3073?

I did, and I just re-read it again.

I think I got it. #3 was a bit confusing because it refers to itself.

 

[Barry2013]

For the AMP, If I ground the negative speaker terminals, then I don't need to ground the signal cable, or the Chassis, is that correct? Just one box per device right? In the case of the speaker terminals just one box per each channel. And if I do that, then I don't also need to ground the spare XLR, or spare RCA also, is that right?

For negative speaker terminal grounding one box and one earth cable for each terminal.
You don't have to earth the amp as well but it is an additional improvement you could make and it will further improve the sound quality. One further box and ground cable to spare RCA or XLR.

 

[ozzzy]

Does anyone know the wire gauge used in the Atlantis grounding cable?

ozzy

 

[Barry2013]

Does anyone know the wire gauge used in the Atlantis grounding cable?

ozzy

I think the Atlantis earth is a mixture of copper and silver so more complicated than your question suggests.
They do work very well IME.

 

[ozzzy]

Barry,
I own one and it seems to be made of some very thin wire (16ga) based on the spades. Just can't figure out what makes it so expensive.

ozzy

 

[Barry2013]

Barry,
I own one and it seems to be made of some very thin wire (16ga) based on the spades. Just can't figure out what makes it so expensive.

ozzy

Thanks Ozzy,
That's interesting. I have three, I think, and yes they are not very thick, They work well but it does make you wonder. The Atlantis range has recently been discontinued by Entreq for whatever reason. I recently acquired an Atlantis Infinity power cable ,which were about £8k new, for a good price and I am happy to say that it has been a great buy. It's a triple cable so obviously a step up from the Apollos

 

[ozzzy]

Too bad some "rich dude" doesn't open up one to see exactly what it consists of. I'm thinking just some quality wire inside a cotton sleeve.

ozzy

 

[Cellcbern]

Too bad some "rich dude" doesn't open up one to see exactly what it consists of. I'm thinking just some quality wire inside a cotton sleeve.

ozzy

The interior of the Entreq Tellus was posted on this forum (link below):

Entreq Tellus grounding

I am debating in a year's time trying O. Tellus and the direct mains grounding, but I need house move/new mains/dedicated lines, to be sorted first. I've had ambiguous results adding Atlantis box/Atlantis cables/pwr amp -ve spkr terminal grounding in my system, so I'm not in a major hurry. For...

www.whatsbestforum.com

Of course the interior contents do not predict the performance of the device - for that you have to listen to it. However looking at photos of the interior the pricing seems ridiculous to me. Scroll down to the bottom of the page for the photos.

 

[ozzzy]

Interesting. It looks like it should shake when moved, but it doesn't so I question the picture authenticity.

ozzy

 

[Thetiminator]

Hi everyone

I'm looking for a little advice after recently dipping my toes into the Entreq water.....I have a really good dealer, but I don't want to be bothering all the time.

1. I started off just trying a Primer Pro power cable on my power conditioner - very impressed.

2. Got my hands on a Cleanus - wow.

3. Then an Olympus 10 (with K2), I connected my server and USB/SPDIF converter to this via Eartha's - wow.

4. My dealer sent over a Silver Tellus last week to try on my Boulder pre/DAC, connected it (only the Boulder, all other connections to the ST unused) up to one of the analogue inputs (outputs are all being used) - rubbish. The sound took a major step backwards, the sound was overly inflated, particularly with over blown bass, also dynamics were compressed. So I changed the input from the Pre-amp section to the DAC section and order was restored, but there was very little difference not having the ST in the chain and the Pre/DAC not being grounded at all.

The plan was to just try these 2nd hand units to see if I liked what Entreq could do, and I provisionally set aside 2 x Poseidon's to do the whole system, rather than lots of boxes everywhere.

My first questions is; has anyone found similar results i.e. some form of over-grounding? In that the ST might be just too much for my Pre/DAC? Or has anyone found that certain pieces/brands just don't benefit?
Or, are the newer products (like the Ten as opposed to the ST) just way more impressive?
Finally, how much difference does the K2 make? Is it possible that it is this that s making the difference between the Ten (with) and the ST (without)?

Thanks for any help in advance, A/B comparisons take an age by the time you change over and then let it settle for 24/48 hours...

 

[Cellcbern]

Hi everyone

I'm looking for a little advice after recently dipping my toes into the Entreq water.....I have a really good dealer, but I don't want to be bothering all the time.

1. I started off just trying a Primer Pro power cable on my power conditioner - very impressed.

2. Got my hands on a Cleanus - wow.

3. Then an Olympus 10 (with K2), I connected my server and USB/SPDIF converter to this via Eartha's - wow.

4. My dealer sent over a Silver Tellus last week to try on my Boulder pre/DAC, connected it (only the Boulder, all other connections to the ST unused) up to one of the analogue inputs (outputs are all being used) - rubbish. The sound took a major step backwards, the sound was overly inflated, particularly with over blown bass, also dynamics were compressed. So I changed the input from the Pre-amp section to the DAC section and order was restored, but there was very little difference not having the ST in the chain and the Pre/DAC not being grounded at all.

The plan was to just try these 2nd hand units to see if I liked what Entreq could do, and I provisionally set aside 2 x Poseidon's to do the whole system, rather than lots of boxes everywhere.

My first questions is; has anyone found similar results i.e. some form of over-grounding? In that the ST might be just too much for my Pre/DAC? Or has anyone found that certain pieces/brands just don't benefit?
Or, are the newer products (like the Ten as opposed to the ST) just way more impressive?
Finally, how much difference does the K2 make? Is it possible that it is this that s making the difference between the Ten (with) and the ST (without)?

Thanks for any help in advance, A/B comparisons take an age by the time you change over and then let it settle for 24/48 hours...

Different components react differently to these "grounding" solutions. I am getting significant noise reduction/musicality enhancement with the much less expensive Puritan Groundmaster City and Russ Andrews Groundweave cables-signal ground on amp and player, chassis ground on power conditioner and power supply. But the nature and magnitude of the change has been different for each component. My intent was to experiment to see if/where grounding might work best in my system before investing in much more expensive options like Entreq, CAD, Nordost Qkore, or Telos. You might want to try something similar. See the Stereo Times review of the Puritan Groundmaster (link below):

Puritan Audio Labs GroundMaster CITY and RouteMaster system by Terry London

 

[matakana]

Hi everyone

I'm looking for a little advice after recently dipping my toes into the Entreq water.....I have a really good dealer, but I don't want to be bothering all the time.

1. I started off just trying a Primer Pro power cable on my power conditioner - very impressed.

2. Got my hands on a Cleanus - wow.

3. Then an Olympus 10 (with K2), I connected my server and USB/SPDIF converter to this via Eartha's - wow.

4. My dealer sent over a Silver Tellus last week to try on my Boulder pre/DAC, connected it (only the Boulder, all other connections to the ST unused) up to one of the analogue inputs (outputs are all being used) - rubbish. The sound took a major step backwards, the sound was overly inflated, particularly with over blown bass, also dynamics were compressed. So I changed the input from the Pre-amp section to the DAC section and order was restored, but there was very little difference not having the ST in the chain and the Pre/DAC not being grounded at all.

The plan was to just try these 2nd hand units to see if I liked what Entreq could do, and I provisionally set aside 2 x Poseidon's to do the whole system, rather than lots of boxes everywhere.

My first questions is; has anyone found similar results i.e. some form of over-grounding? In that the ST might be just too much for my Pre/DAC? Or has anyone found that certain pieces/brands just don't benefit?
Or, are the newer products (like the Ten as opposed to the ST) just way more impressive?
Finally, how much difference does the K2 make? Is it possible that it is this that s making the difference between the Ten (with) and the ST (without)?

Thanks for any help in advance, A/B comparisons take an age by the time you change over and then let it settle for 24/48 hours...

If you look under the thread grounding boxes you will find more info other than entreq.

 

[Barry2013]

Hi everyone

I'm looking for a little advice after recently dipping my toes into the Entreq water.....I have a really good dealer, but I don't want to be bothering all the time.

1. I started off just trying a Primer Pro power cable on my power conditioner - very impressed.

2. Got my hands on a Cleanus - wow.

3. Then an Olympus 10 (with K2), I connected my server and USB/SPDIF converter to this via Eartha's - wow.

4. My dealer sent over a Silver Tellus last week to try on my Boulder pre/DAC, connected it (only the Boulder, all other connections to the ST unused) up to one of the analogue inputs (outputs are all being used) - rubbish. The sound took a major step backwards, the sound was overly inflated, particularly with over blown bass, also dynamics were compressed. So I changed the input from the Pre-amp section to the DAC section and order was restored, but there was very little difference not having the ST in the chain and the Pre/DAC not being grounded at all.

The plan was to just try these 2nd hand units to see if I liked what Entreq could do, and I provisionally set aside 2 x Poseidon's to do the whole system, rather than lots of boxes everywhere.

My first questions is; has anyone found similar results i.e. some form of over-grounding? In that the ST might be just too much for my Pre/DAC? Or has anyone found that certain pieces/brands just don't benefit?
Or, are the newer products (like the Ten as opposed to the ST) just way more impressive?
Finally, how much difference does the K2 make? Is it possible that it is this that s making the difference between the Ten (with) and the ST (without)?

Thanks for any help in advance, A/B comparisons take an age by the time you change over and then let it settle for 24/48 hours...

Something is obviously not right, but I am not sure what.
I am a long term and very satisfied user of Entreq grounding as well as their cables, but I am not into streaming so hesitate to suggest the cause of your problems.
In my experience the benefits of Entreq grounding are normally very apparent within the first 10 minutes, though the full benefits take longer to realise.
My advice is that you seek your dealers help rather than risk going round in potentially fruitless circles. That is what they are there for and I am sure they would be able to provide the expert help and guidance that you clearly need.

 

[HK Panda]

UPDATE - After back and forth with my local dealer, and much reading and thought I have finally pulled the trigger and ordered the Olympus Infinity and 2 x Peak -4 Caps. The supplier in China just last week raised the prices because of import costs, so the prices now are about DOUBLE, which gave me lots of pause. My dealer found a HK dealer that still had stock at the old prices, so I ordered.

If lucky, I will have it in about 5-7 days.