Hello from the beautiful city of Lindau in Germany

shakti

Well-Known Member
May 9, 2015
1,437
2,383
480
Cologne, Germany

Audiophile Bill

Well-Known Member
Mar 23, 2015
4,293
4,093
675
I open my house (Germany, west of Cologne) and invite regular for bigger music listening and gear comparing sessions,
called "high end workshop" (next one will be 15'of June 2019)

Mostly around 20 to 30 people come over to enjoy the event in two rooms.

The guests can bring their own gear (one day before for better set up) and manufacturers offer their stuff as well to support the workshop,
most likely they like to attend as well.

Themes of the workshops were as example:
- amplifiers (NAT, Air Tight, Devialet, Jeff Rowland, Mark Levinson, Hypex)
- pre amplifiers (Audio Note, Kondo, BAT, Krell, Mark Levinson, Koda, VTL, Einstein, Octave)
- Phono Pre (Kondo, Grandinote, Einstein, Octave, NAT, AirTIght, VTL, Thoeress)
- DACs (Lampizator, Ypsilon, Jeff Rowland, BAT, Linn, TotalDAc, Aqua, T&A and many more)
- Cartridges (various Koetsu, various SPU, Lyra, various Audio technica, air tight, Shun Mook, Ikea)
- turntables (Micro Seiki, TechDAS, Reed, seismograph, Linn, VPI)
- speakers (horns, Wilson Audio, Kii, BD- Design, Zingali, RD Acoustic, Thoeress)

We are all not "blinded", even level adjustment is not done properly.

Our experience after some of those workshops is, that the difference and the character of many of the products on comparison is so
clear, that you can identify them even on different listening levels.

The last comparison of High End DACs was done a year ago, so it might be a good idea to plan the next one :)

I will see in Munich some of the smaller manufacturers, may be they like to support.
(maybe again with the SGM server :)

In the history I never invited the WBF community to this kind of workshops,
this was done so far only in the three major German forums.
But as the Cologne airport is not far away and some WBF members do live in Europe, same with some of the best High End manufacturers :)
I will do invite WBF for the next workshop as well.

Just looking for the best WBF Forums section to post such an invitation,
may be under "other Audioshows"?
any suggestions?
as "audioshow" does not fit properly...

Hey Shakti,

Sounds a really interesting event - congrats.

With respect to the point about it being so clear without blinding - great but don’t confuse that with the audience not being biased in some way - it is always the case. Therefore under more rigorous conditions it might also be that way but might not. Therefore, other than the slight hassle of doing things blinded, it is obviously preferable (even necessary) to really do such evaluations and come to robust conclusions. That said, if the event is more for fun, socialising and hearing gear then doing it without more rigour is clearly the way to go.

Enjoy.
 
  • Like
Reactions: christoph

Lagonda

VIP/Donor
Feb 3, 2014
3,415
4,670
1,255
Denmark
Hey Shakti,

Sounds a really interesting event - congrats.

With respect to the point about it being so clear without blinding - great but don’t confuse that with the audience not being biased in some way - it is always the case. Therefore under more rigorous conditions it might also be that way but might not. Therefore, other than the slight hassle of doing things blinded, it is obviously preferable (even necessary) to really do such evaluations and come to robust conclusions. That said, if the event is more for fun, socialising and hearing gear then doing it without more rigour is clearly the way to go.

Enjoy.
I’m not going to Shakti’s listening room and getting blindfolded.
He’s got his own stripper pole for god sake ! :eek:
 

Audiophile Bill

Well-Known Member
Mar 23, 2015
4,293
4,093
675
I’m not going to Shakti’s listening room and getting blindfolded.
He’s got his own stripper pole for god sake ! :eek:

That is the real reason his events are so awesome :p
 

the sound of Tao

Well-Known Member
Jul 18, 2014
3,620
4,838
940
I’m not going to Shakti’s listening room and getting blindfolded.
He’s got his own stripper pole for god sake ! :eek:
If you are blindfolded how are you possibly going to know who is up on the pole?
 

Lagonda

VIP/Donor
Feb 3, 2014
3,415
4,670
1,255
Denmark

the sound of Tao

Well-Known Member
Jul 18, 2014
3,620
4,838
940
If only I was so adept... and yes, then you would definitely want to be double-blind.
 

Lagonda

VIP/Donor
Feb 3, 2014
3,415
4,670
1,255
Denmark
Sorry Hr. Mayer we will stop now:)
 

Sablon Audio

Industry Expert, VIP Donor
May 22, 2015
1,611
1,484
553
Guys, maybe you want to start a separate thread for the shootout discussion... Doesn't really fit here

Apologies Thomas, a number of us have gone off at a tangent here. There is however an underlying interest in your dac and it would be great to get a demo.

Although I can understand how you might wish to keep the specifics under wrap ahead of a formal launch at the Munich show, perhaps you can tell us a bit more about about your development program? What type of source player / media storage / input format did you use and which dacs have you used to benchmark it against? You are, after all, VinylSavor so there is understandably some curiousity about your choice to branch out in this direction.
 

VinylSavor

Well-Known Member
May 15, 2018
220
600
200
Lindau, Germany
www.vinylsavor.com
Hi!

Maybe I should not have shown that pic as it is a bit early. Those who already heard some of my electronics will have a feel how this sounds as it follows the same sound philosophy. Others who are seriously interested can always visit me for a demo

Thomas
 

bonzo75

Member Sponsor
Feb 26, 2014
22,438
13,468
2,710
London
Shakti, you "stripped" your cart list of vdh Stradivarius :(
 
  • Like
Reactions: Lagonda

shakti

Well-Known Member
May 9, 2015
1,437
2,383
480
Cologne, Germany
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: Lagonda

christoph

Well-Known Member
Dec 11, 2015
4,659
4,058
825
Principality of Liechtenstein
You people scare the hell out the manufacturers.. not with the shootouts...but with your ears..hehe :eek:

Tang :)
Says who of all people? :p;):cool:
 

christoph

Well-Known Member
Dec 11, 2015
4,659
4,058
825
Principality of Liechtenstein
Guys, maybe you want to start a separate thread for the shootout discussion... Doesn't really fit here
Sorry, Thomas.
Bill asked and I answered and then the thread got carried away, sorry again :oops:
 
  • Like
Reactions: Audiophile Bill

About us

  • What’s Best Forum is THE forum for high end audio, product reviews, advice and sharing experiences on the best of everything else. This is THE place where audiophiles and audio companies discuss vintage, contemporary and new audio products, music servers, music streamers, computer audio, digital-to-analog converters, turntables, phono stages, cartridges, reel-to-reel tape machines, speakers, headphones and tube and solid-state amplification. Founded in 2010 What’s Best Forum invites intelligent and courteous people of all interests and backgrounds to describe and discuss the best of everything. From beginners to life-long hobbyists to industry professionals, we enjoy learning about new things and meeting new people, and participating in spirited debates.

Quick Navigation

User Menu

Steve Williams
Site Founder | Site Owner | Administrator
Ron Resnick
Site Co-Owner | Administrator
Julian (The Fixer)
Website Build | Marketing Managersing