My Prime Signature

Bachtoven · Oct 20, 2019

This thread doesn't seem very active, and since my last post, I upgraded to a Prime Signature with an Ortofon Cadenza Bronze cartridge. The improvement over my Scout/2M Black is astounding. Deeper bass, more details (with less surface noise), deeper/wider soundstage--you name it!

I no longer have the Musical Surroundings Nova II since my McIntosh MA 9000 has a great built-in phono stage.

leftside · Oct 22, 2019

I think the Prime Signature might well be my last turntable. I've been having fun with Analog Magik the last couple of weekends dialing everything in.

MJB · Oct 23, 2019

Congratulations! Very nice sounding and great value.

Bachtoven · Oct 23, 2019

leftside said:
I think the Prime Signature might well be my last turntable. I've been having fun with Analog Magik the last couple of weekends dialing everything in.

Mine too. Oh, I suppose one of the better Transrotor TTs would be nice, but there are diminishing returns. At some point I'll need to replace the cartridge, but that's about it.

(Sure, this would be heavenly... but at $150,000...I don't think so!)

Baffled · Feb 21, 2020

Here is my Prime Signature. I ditched the stock feet in favor of edenSound TerraCones and replaced the weight with the Stillpoints LPI.

leftside · Feb 21, 2020

Baffled said:
Here is my Prime Signature. I ditched the stock feet in favor of edenSound TerraCones and replaced the weight with the Stillpoints LPI.
View attachment 61930

What vinyl ring are you using there?

Baffled · Feb 21, 2020

leftside said:
What vinyl ring are you using there?

That is a Merrill Williams periphery ring. I sanded off the blah blah black powder coat and hit it with 3 coats of automotive primer and 3 coats of automotive paint.

leftside · Feb 21, 2020

Baffled said:
That is a Merrill Williams periphery ring. I sanded off the blah blah black powder coat and hit it with 3 coats of automotive primer and 3 coats of automotive paint.

Nice. Hadn't heard of that one before.

Vienna · Feb 21, 2020

Baffled said:
Here is my Prime Signature. I ditched the stock feet in favor of edenSound TerraCones and replaced the weight with the Stillpoints LPI.
View attachment 61930

I noticed that you have addressed some of the design issues of this turntable in a very clever and cosmetically appealing way. Nice!

Baffled · Feb 22, 2020

Vienna said:
I noticed that you have addressed some of the designed issues of this turntable in a very clever and cosmetically appealing way. Nice!

I have also implemented Votan's tweak.

Vienna · Feb 22, 2020

good!!!! actually its half, you are missing the rings under the VTA tower.
i have plenty of different thicknesses. Measure the clearance underneath the VTA tower and let me know. Pm your address and I will send you a couple.

you were lucky to get Phoenix Eagle and roadrunner too.

Baffled · Feb 23, 2020

Vienna said:
good!!!! actually its half, you are missing the rings under the VTA tower.
i have plenty of different thicknesses. Measure the clearance underneath the VTA tower and let me know. Pm your address and I will send you a couple.

you were lucky to get Phoenix Eagle and roadrunner too.

I have tried putting rings under the tower but I always end up removing them. Thanks for the offer though.

I bought the Phoenix Engineering Eagle PSU and Roadrunner right before he went out of business.

Vienna · Feb 23, 2020

Baffled said:
I bought the Phoenix Engineering Eagle PSU and Roadrunner right before he went out of business.

there are no many power supplies like this!

Baffled · Feb 23, 2020

Vienna said:
there are no many power supplies like this!

Will the Condor work with the Prime Signature?

Vienna · Feb 23, 2020

Baffled said:
Will the Condor work with the Prime Signature?

only if you will replace your current AC Harst synchronous motor with the SOTA 24 V.

Bill Carlin (@Phoenix Engineering ) told me that it has more torque and is way more silent than the VPI one. However you will need the new SOTA pulley and the new belt too.
i understand that the modification can be done by SOTA

Baffled · Feb 23, 2020

Vienna said:
only if you will replace your current AC Harst synchronous motor with the SOTA 24 V.

Bill Carlin (@Phoenix Engineering ) told me that it has more torque and is way more silent than the VPI one. However you will need the new SOTA pulley and the new belt too.
i understand that the modification can be done by SOTA

That's good to know in case something happens to my current motor.

Vienna · Feb 23, 2020

You shouldn’t worry you can always get a new synchronous too from Hurst
http://www.hurst-motors.com/

Baffled · Feb 23, 2020

Vienna said:
You shouldn’t worry you can always get a new synchronous too from Hurst
http://www.hurst-motors.com/

Thanks good to know.

Vienna · May 14, 2020

Bill Carlin (Phoenix Engineering) has just made for me a killer rim drive. It’s equipped with two Anaheim Automation BLDC Motors, precision metal pulleys and Class AB amplifier.
the vibration measurements are impressively low.
the drive is completely noiseless and smooth, with direct impact on the sound quality.

trekpilot · May 14, 2020

Vienna,
Any chance you could post a photo of your new drive unit?
Thanks,
Scott

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