In search of the best rca cable

Zappadaddy · Mar 12, 2021

I am in search for rca cable. Now I have Ansuz C2 on trial, and wow it is great. I also have Townshend Fractal F1 and this cable is also very good, especialy for the price, it is 4x times cheaper then Ansuz. Fractal has little more body but a lot less resolution. The instruments with Ansuz are even more lifelike then Fractal, with a lot more air around them, the tember is also more realistic. Interesting is that with Ansuz there is very little diffrence between digital Aes/ebu cables then with Fractal. It seems like Fractal will just pass the signal through the way it is. On the other hand Ansuz make his own sound(like a filter) with less sensitivity to cables hooked between dac and streamer.I hope you understand what I am trying to say. I am also considering other cables like Stealth Indra or Sakra, Mit Oracle MA-X, Nordost Odin and Synergistic Galileo, maybe even Transparent Opus. Any thought or any experiences with these highend cables? Could anyone describe how these cable sound?

marty · Mar 13, 2021

Zappa, scores of audiophiles have listened to dozens of cable brands but describing their sound is only as useful as understanding the system in which they are being evaluated. In other words, what works for someone else is not necessarily useful for you. The best way to find your ideal cable is to try them in your system. That's easy to do with resources like the Cable Company who have a huge lending library. So many good ones to try. You've named several very expensive cable brands, I'd encourage you to try some far less expensive cables as well. Keep in mind that many of the recording studios and record companies that make the music you are listening to produce their products using cables such as Mogami and other industry standard products that are extremely affordable. You may be pleasantly surprised to learn that it might be more productive to spend the big dollars elsewhere in your system.

Zappadaddy · Mar 13, 2021

Thanks, I understand what you are saying, but I just replaced the whole audio chain with very high resolution sound and just found out that the cable I am testing now is so much better then 3-4 times less expensive cables. It is just incredible how Ansuz C2 made this awesome system sing. But before I decide I like to try couple more cables to see what it can do in my system. I think if you own such a product like Pink Faun and Mola Mola that you need cables which will be capable of showing what these machines can really do. So I am asking if someone here on this forum could compare these brands and models I mentioned before I even want to try them.

Zappadaddy · Mar 13, 2021

Zappadaddy said:
Thanks, I understand what you are saying, but I just replaced the whole audio chain with very high resolution sound and just found out that the cable I am testing now is so much better then 3-4 times less expensive cables. It is just incredible how Ansuz C2 made this awesome system sing. But before I decide I like to try couple more cables to see what it can do in my system. I think if you own such a product like Pink Faun and Mola Mola that you need cables which will be capable of showing what these machines can really do. So I am asking if someone here on this forum could compare these brands and models I mentioned before I even want to try them.

also now I only want to spend money for rca ultimate cables because I just spent a lot of money for new system which I really like, so spending money elsewhere in my system does not make any sense to me right now ..... believe me cables can kill even the best of the best systems, I´v been there

Zappadaddy · Mar 15, 2021

Nobody has experience with the interconnect cables I mentioned? Hm, I thought they are people here owning extraordinary systems?

tima · Mar 15, 2021

marty said:
Zappa, scores of audiophiles have listened to dozens of cable brands but describing their sound is only as useful as understanding the system in which they are being evaluated. In other words, what works for someone else is not necessarily useful for you. The best way to find your ideal cable is to try them in your system. That's easy to do with resources like the Cable Company who have a huge lending library. So many good ones to try. You've named several very expensive cable brands, I'd encourage you to try some far less expensive cables as well. Keep in mind that many of the recording studios and record companies that make the music you are listening to produce their products using cables such as Mogami and other industry standard products that are extremely affordable. You may be pleasantly surprised to learn that it might be more productive to spend the big dollars elsewhere in your system.

I don't think he got the message.

Zappadaddy · Mar 15, 2021

what´s wrong with the question what kind of experience people have with certain brands in their system on highend forum?

Zappadaddy · Mar 15, 2021

tima said:
I don't think he got the message.

I do think that you do not understand what I am asking, I am asking exactly what Marty is saying, I repeat again : "Any thought or any experiences with these highend cables? Could anyone describe how these cable sound (in their system)?"

marty · Mar 15, 2021

Zappa, I'm guessing you're not getting a big response to your query simply because there aren't a lot of folks on this forum that use Ansuz cables. I notice you joined the forum a few months ago. If you browse through the cable posts (or even better, do a search on specific brands), you'll see many threads on some of the most popular cables used by owners here such as Masterbuilt, MIT, Transparent, and Nordost, etc almost none for dozens of other brands. It might be better to check specifically for Ansuz reviews on the internet. Good luck.

spiritofmusic · Mar 15, 2021

Zappadaddy, I know someone who trialled the Ansuz Diamond pwr cord at £10k.
Even tonal balance, good resolution, but over time he found it to be hard and fatigueing.
When compared to SR Atmosphere and Thrax Enklein alternatives, the former sounding warmer and more involving at a third of the price. I believe he now owns the SR.
I know yr thread is specifically about RCA cbls, but this attribute may be consistent across the range.

miniguy · Mar 15, 2021

Zappadaddy said:
I am in search for rca cable. Now I have Ansuz C2 on trial, and wow it is great. I also have Townshend Fractal F1 and this cable is also very good, especialy for the price, it is 4x times cheaper then Ansuz. Fractal has little more body but a lot less resolution. The instruments with Ansuz are even more lifelike then Fractal, with a lot more air around them, the tember is also more realistic. Interesting is that with Ansuz there is very little diffrence between digital Aes/ebu cables then with Fractal. It seems like Fractal will just pass the signal through the way it is. On the other hand Ansuz make his own sound(like a filter) with less sensitivity to cables hooked between dac and streamer.I hope you understand what I am trying to say. I am also considering other cables like Stealth Indra or Sakra, Mit Oracle MA-X, Nordost Odin and Synergistic Galileo, maybe even Transparent Opus. Any thought or any experiences with these highend cables? Could anyone describe how these cable sound?

You should consider Pranawire in this elite group. I use their Arhat line of interconnects, speaker cables, and power cables. I have not heard a finer interconnect in any system so I cannot imagine how much better their top-of-the-line Nirvana interconnect is. Check out Pranawire on this forum.

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Zappadaddy · Mar 15, 2021

marty said:
Zappa, I'm guessing you;re not getting a big response to your query simply because there aren't a lot of folks on this forum that use Ansuz cables. I notice you joined the forum a few months ago. If you browse through the cable posts (or even better, do a search on specific brands), you'll see many threads on some of the most popular cables used by owners here such as Mastbuilt, MIT, Transparent, and Nordost, etc almost none for dozens of other brands. It might be better to check specifically for Ansuz reviews on the internet. Good luck.

Yes but I was asking about very respectable and know brands like MIT, Transpatrent audio, Synergetic and Stealth. I asumed (myabe my assupmtion was wrong) that forum like this have a lot owners of these brands. About Ansuz I do not need to know because I know how it sounds. Do you know that some people left Nordost to estabilish Ansuz? And that is why Ansus C2 and D2 sound similar to Nordost Odin. Hey Marty thanks for explanations.

mcduman · Mar 15, 2021

hi zappadady,

i have tried many ansuz cables and they are very good. i heard all the way from x to dtc series and ended up buying the d2 power cord. like most cable brands, as you go up the price ladder there are nice and noticeable differences. and power and signal cables from the same series play well with each other. the ansuz cables were recently reviewed by 6moons, and the reviewer had exactly same findings as i did: the power cables together with the power boxes are exceptional. from that solid foundation, signal cables are nice add-ons .from my experience, ansuz cables are quiet and very dynamic at the same time. sometimes dynamic cabled appear to be a little forward but i do not get that in my system.

i had transparent opus series IV prior to that and they were really good cables too. extremely pleasing sweet sound. i liked their signal cables better than their power cables. you have to go at least above reference level with the transparents and do not forget the VI series are coming soon.

i also had valhalla and odin cables and i believe they are a little bit overrated. there is a family resemblance to ansuz but ansuz is the more modern sound imo.

please do not buy into my friend's friend's cousin heard that cable and did not like it narrative. try them possible in an all ansuz scenario and if you like the sound start from the upstream. and ask for a good discount.

3125simon · Mar 15, 2021

I have also had Ansuz. C2 speaker and Interconnects (RCA/CLR) as well power - Mainz8 c2 and D2 and C2 cables.
they replaced Cardas clear beyond power and Furutech flux series....
I was very pleased with the Ansuz.and fully invested as they are seriously expensive... but when I changed my loud speakers from SF To Tidal Piano G2 there was a slight etch and too much high frequency energy, and I changed the speaker cables to Tidal Silver Ref and the interconnects to Tara Labs Muse.
this gave more resolution and a more natural sound. - THROUGH any system in my room.....

Cables don’t operate in isolation, so it’s hard to compare in abstract.....

For me in my previous system, the Ansuz where a complete revolution, and transformed the sound and my enjoyment, so much so that I spent crazy money on a full loom!!!

then you change something and upset the balance and go again - this is our hobby - go figure

Cellcbern · Mar 15, 2021

Zappadaddy said:
I am in search for rca cable. Now I have Ansuz C2 on trial, and wow it is great. I also have Townshend Fractal F1 and this cable is also very good, especialy for the price, it is 4x times cheaper then Ansuz. Fractal has little more body but a lot less resolution. The instruments with Ansuz are even more lifelike then Fractal, with a lot more air around them, the tember is also more realistic. Interesting is that with Ansuz there is very little diffrence between digital Aes/ebu cables then with Fractal. It seems like Fractal will just pass the signal through the way it is. On the other hand Ansuz make his own sound(like a filter) with less sensitivity to cables hooked between dac and streamer.I hope you understand what I am trying to say. I am also considering other cables like Stealth Indra or Sakra, Mit Oracle MA-X, Nordost Odin and Synergistic Galileo, maybe even Transparent Opus. Any thought or any experiences with these highend cables? Could anyone describe how these cable sound?

Listen to Hemingway Audio Z-Core if you can.

Zappadaddy · Mar 15, 2021

mcduman said:
hi zappadady,

i have tried many ansuz cables and they are very good. i heard all the way from x to dtc series and ended up buying the d2 power cord. like most cable brands, as you go up the price ladder there are nice and noticeable differences. and power and signal cables from the same series play well with each other. the ansuz cables were recently reviewed by 6moons, and the reviewer had exactly same findings as i did: the power cables together with the power boxes are exceptional. from that solid foundation, signal cables are nice add-ons .from my experience, ansuz cables are quiet and very dynamic at the same time. sometimes dynamic cabled appear to be a little forward but i do not get that in my system.

i had transparent opus series IV prior to that and they were really good cables too. extremely pleasing sweet sound. i liked their signal cables better than their power cables. you have to go at least above reference level with the transparents and do not forget the VI series are coming soon.

i also had valhalla and odin cables and i believe they are a little bit overrated. there is a family resemblance to ansuz but ansuz is the more modern sound imo.

please do not buy into my friend's friend's cousin heard that cable and did not like it narrative. try them possible in an all ansuz scenario and if you like the sound start from the upstream. and ask for a good discount.

Thanks so much for sharing.

3125simon said:
I have also had Ansuz. C2 speaker and Interconnects (RCA/CLR) as well power - Mainz8 c2 and D2 and C2 cables.
they replaced Cardas clear beyond power and Furutech flux series....
I was very pleased with the Ansuz.and fully invested as they are seriously expensive... but when I changed my loud speakers from SF To Tidal Piano G2 there was a slight etch and too much high frequency energy, and I changed the speaker cables to Tidal Silver Ref and the interconnects to Tara Labs Muse.
this gave more resolution and a more natural sound. - THROUGH any system in my room.....

Cables don’t operate in isolation, so it’s hard to compare in abstract.....

For me in my previous system, the Ansuz where a complete revolution, and transformed the sound and my enjoyment, so much so that I spent crazy money on a full loom!!!

then you change something and upset the balance and go again - this is our hobby - go figure

Thanks for your words, I am building new system which I like to keep for long time, so I can tune my system with cables knowing that it will stay that way for a while. I decided to go with Ansuz C2, I will also try their power cables C2, we will see if they replace very good Harmonix gold. Thank you guys for trying to help me with my dilema. " Music is the best"

3125simon · Mar 15, 2021

Zappadaddy said:
Thanks so much for sharing.

Thanks for your words, I am building new system which I like to keep for long time, so I can tune my system with cables knowing that it will stay that way for a while. I decided to go with Ansuz C2, I will also try their power cables C2, we will see if they replace very good Harmonix gold. Thank you guys for trying to help me with my dilema. " Music is the best"

Good luck with your system building - as said by a previous poster, the Ansuz power cords are really good, but they whole range is very expensive...

fantastic looking room by the way...

peter pan · Mar 15, 2021

odin2 is the king if you are willing to pay full loom.

dan31 · Mar 15, 2021

Acrolink and Jorma have some nice wire. Taralabs has some advanced designs as well. Hard to tell if it’s what you need.

marty · Mar 15, 2021

Zappadaddy said:
Thanks so much for sharing.

Thanks for your words, I am building new system which I like to keep for long time, so I can tune my system with cables knowing that it will stay that way for a while. I decided to go with Ansuz C2, I will also try their power cables C2, we will see if they replace very good Harmonix gold. Thank you guys for trying to help me with my dilema. " Music is the best"

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