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    CH Precision C1.2

    I have listened c1.2 with d1.5 for cd listening. Almost as good as vinyl on Air Force 3 premium. That's saying something. The price is a big barrier.
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    DCS Rossini APEX has arrived!

    How much Continuum table arm cartridge cost? Mine about 50k (master innovation setup). I'm remembering shootout at store with turntable (Air Force 3premium graham Lyra cartridge) a little better. But rossini apex quite good esp with clock. I like power supplies also. Adds dynamics. The...
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    DCS Rossini APEX has arrived!

    I am hoping to get Clearaudio Master Innovation vinyl equivalence (in CD player) but seems impossible for less than $70000. The Master Innovation does not smear piano notes. Youtube video and personal experience. I may have to wait until I can save money, or do a DCS or an improved Esoteric...
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    Can digital get to vinyl sound and at what price?

    Hello Here is my opinion. To be as good as vinyl it takes almost 70k. That is the Esoteric Grandioso K1x and G1x (clock). Reported to me by a Grandioso dealer. According to him a Vinyl challenger. CH precision C1.2 D1.5 is my direct 1st hand experience. Vinyl challenger. almost 86k i...
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    Can digital get to vinyl sound and at what price?

    I find in my system using a Clearaudio Master Innovation turntable (or most of them of north of $30000), all vinyls sound much better than CD with some (few) exceptions. Absolute Sound magazine had a list of recommended LP's in the 1980's. Most Reiner /Chicago SO RCA, Many Mercury LP's...
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    Can digital get to vinyl sound and at what price?

    Hello Its a struggle to match vinyl. Again, as I mentioned I haver firsthand experience wit super expensive CH Precision C1.2 D1.5 in store only. Its close to vinyl. If the Grandioso new K1X SE can be somewhat close to vinyl, that would be great. Perhaps DCS Bartok, apex or non-apex, but I...
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    Can digital get to vinyl sound and at what price?

    To summarize I want cd player to be close to ch precision d1.5 c1.2 at a much lower price. Getting is long way from wanting.
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    Can digital get to vinyl sound and at what price?

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    Can digital get to vinyl sound and at what price?

    Hello. The cd player I like is the CH precision d1.5 and c1.2 combo. Cost is prohibitive. Almost 90k. The best idea is for me to become 90k richer. Reality seems to dictate for me to keep what I have and wait longer. This life is short and getting shorter. Thanks for all the suggestions.
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    Can digital get to vinyl sound and at what price?

    I must get a significant sound upgrade from the Esoteric K01x for any new item to be worthwhile. Even a stopgap measure needs to be a decent or noticeable upgrade. The K01x is from 2016. Perhaps if I waited until 2026, a significant upgrade at a low price could be had for less than $30,000. It...
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    Can digital get to vinyl sound and at what price?

    Hello I want to assure the most bits are coming through. I would hope that any Esoteric would do it but the K1X has best transport, higher spec than non-grandioso. I can't say whether the difference is audible. I do know that CH precision does better with its own transport than a lower price...
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    CH Precision C1.2

    Hello Ron I am looking for more detail, with relaxed sound. Dynamic also. Turntable, being heavy, has the bass. I want to be happy with cd. I would be if I ignored analog. It's hard to verbalize. I could try k1x but if I try it, I own it. I can look into lampizator but I wonder if replacement...
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    Can digital get to vinyl sound and at what price?

    Oops, meant D1.5 as CH precision transport.
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    Can digital get to vinyl sound and at what price?

    Hello I am trying to get an idea of what CD players can sound as good as or nearly as good as a $50,000 turntable setup. For example, clearaudio master innovation or Air Force three premium. Also, a player that will not smear piano notes. In my opinion the turntable does not. I am of the...
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    CH Precision C1.2

    Hello I wonder what other CD players that can be in the same sound quality neighborhood as an expensive turntable for example, the Air Force three premium or the clearaudio master innovation. Subjective sound like relaxed sound, realism, and density of music. I'm wondering if the Esoteric...
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    DCS Rossini APEX has arrived!

    I am struggling to improve my digital setup, but money is limited until I can save enough.. CH precision is an ultimate goal but its 86k. Or jsut 46k for C1.2 DAC. I am wondering if there exists a CD player substantially better than the K01X (Esoteric) for less than 30k? Waiting a year...
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    Clearaudio Master Innovation UP and running.

    I had one since Feb 2023. Universal 12 in arm and Jubilee MC cartridge and Simaudio 310LP phono preamp. Way better than any LP12 I heard, and the TechDas AF5P. (premium). I believe master innovation competes with a CD player like CH Precision C1.2 D1.5 combo at over $80000. This table is...
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    Can digital get to vinyl sound and at what price?

    I agree. What year will that happen at a less than $60000 price? I assume 2030. Digital is making very slow progress in my opinion. CH precision c 1.2 plus d1.5. at 84000 or more, getting close in my opinion.
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    DCS Rossini APEX has arrived!

    The Rossini apex would CB probably sound good. But I wonder if the estoteric grandioso k1x could be just as good. I like the idea of a transport built in but my esoteric k01x could do that. I'm looking for end of life unit (my life) and the idea of equaling a Clearaudio master innovation is...
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    DCS Rossini APEX has arrived!

    I listened in-store to APEX Rossini with transport. Versus TechDAS Air Force 3 Premium (AF3 P). Air Force 3P better. Also, in-store I listened to CH Precision 1.5 transport and 1.2 DAC versus AF3 P Close, which is good news if I had $84000 to $90000 to buy them. I dont. I have...
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    CH Precision C1.2

    Hello Ron and anyone else with interest in this, Thank you for your comments. I fanticise about having a cd player as good as a $50k turntable, but to me, it seems like we are not there yet. Will it take 10 more years to reach that level? If CH precision could do it for 50k or less, that...
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    CH Precision C1.2

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    CH Precision C1.2

    Hello Ron The short answer is I have six times the number of CDs than LPs. So there is some bias here, and the desire that the CDs would sound better. But that doesnt change the truth for me, that most LPs sound better (than CDs) on a sufficiently expensive turntable. When I listen to...
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    What is the benefit of very expensive DACs?

    I expected to be blown away by the DCS Rossini Apex. When compared to analog, it was not as good ($67000 turntable) and at another store a Master innovation with the tt1 arm and goldfinger cartridge which is dcs vivaldi price territory. Its the sound that is different and more forward for...
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    CH Precision C1.2

    Hello Bonsey, Yes it (Air Force 3 premium) was with the P1 with the RIAA curve set to the record manufacturer. I hear Deutsche Grammophon uses the Teldec RIAA curve. It (AF 3 premium) was quite good, better than any CD player I haver heard. As I said the C1.2 and D1.5 approached the turntable...
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    CH Precision C1.2

    Hello, This is Bill Eames, fairly new to whatsbest forums. Its a little confusing to find my thread and finally found the search feature, Good. I am now reporting on comparison between TechDAS air force 3 premium (I call Air Force) and C1.2 DAC with D1.5 transport. This is all my...
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    CH Precision C1.2

    Hello, I am new to this forum, but since you discuss good audio equipment, I thought I would try to join. Do you know if the CH Precision 1.5 CD player or the c1.2 is as good as a similar price turntable? If c1.5 is 46k that is similarly priced to a Clearaudion Master innovation turntable...

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