American Sound AS-2000 Installations- Far East (Tango)

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What is the difference in design, and what is the difference in sound, between the original white DST and the original black DST?
 

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What is the difference in design, and what is the difference in sound, between the original white DST and the original black DST?
The white one is the original DST black one is the last version the DST 62. The 62 is closer in character to modern MC cartridges the DST is more visceral and IMO less colored. @Tango should share his impressions of both too.

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The white one is the original DST black one is the last version the DST 62. The 62 is closer in character to modern MC cartridges the DST is more visceral and IMO less colored. @Tango should share his impressions of both too.

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Thank you, David.
 

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I would love to know what changed between the white dst and the dst62 and why.

I am pretty sure that Neumann did not lose their abilities in this time period, so whatever changed must have been on purpose. Cost? Striving for wider bandwidth?

@Tango did you keep the westrex cart as well? I recall you tested it or heard it somewhere?
 

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I would love to know what changed between the white dst and the dst62 and why.

I am pretty sure that Neumann did not lose their abilities in this time period, so whatever changed must have been on purpose. Cost? Striving for wider bandwidth?
Nothing changed in the construction or level of sound quality the difference is only in the sonic aesthetic. Think of it as a higher level vintage EMT or SPU type sound. Neumanns weren't commercial cartridges they were almost exclusively used in mastering, maybe he wanted to get closer to high end consumer type sound with the 62.

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That system looks great. Congratulations Tang and David.

I spy with my little eye: two 3012Rs, two Axioms, and two SATs. Interestingly, no arm on the Kronos. I agree with Lagonda that the AS2000 is the best looking TT of the bunch. Very purposeful look, and solid. Congratulations to Jarek also on a fine looking and what looks to be a very successful rack design.
Just noticed that Peter posted this four years ago today… the audiophile trap in that seemingly harmless thought was set very early! :eek:
 
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Just noticed that Peter posted this four years ago today… the audiophile trap in that seemingly harmless thought was set very early! :eek:

Graham, I admired from afar the AS 2000. I then heard it and directly compared it to the TechDAS AF1in Rockitman’s system. There was no comparison. I then heard the turntable in David‘s system on two separate visits. Then I lived with the original AS1000 for a month in my own system. I am not at all surprised that Tang has kept the EMT 927 and the AS 2000 and sold off the rest.

Yes, the trap was set four years ago. My leg got caught two weeks ago. Just think how much Tang has learned in the intervening four years. And wait until he gets those speakers.
 
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It’s funny Peter, I think we sometimes can sense the moment that a thought goes in that will become a clear direction.. though sometimes it enters in a small innocuous observation … it’s like in landscape design there is the desire line which is the way we are drawn to travel instinctively. You can feel it being triggered even though reason might tell us to question what is required by the going in a certain direction. But for me this is definitely a hobby of passion over reason lol. We pretend it’s all reasonable but I’m not sure that’s why we are actually here. Passion is a fabulously wayward driver but such a journey!
 

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I would love to know what changed between the white dst and the dst62 and why.

I am pretty sure that Neumann did not lose their abilities in this time period, so whatever changed must have been on purpose. Cost? Striving for wider bandwidth?

@Tango did you keep the westrex cart as well? I recall you tested it or heard it somewhere?
Yes. The Westrex 10A. I did not mention much trying to keep it unheard as has been. The cart is incredible. Even better the Neumann in clarity and transient speed. The most agile cart I have heard. But in the region of bass it is not as impressive as the Neumann. The bass from Neumann is just so natural. For both Westrex and Neumann Instrument just makes sound out of the air in front of you. Natural presentation. No color that veil the recording. A lot of use of the term natural because when it is so difficult to describe the word natural just pop up.

Added: Another stand out character of the two cart is the energy that they pour into music.

Regarding bandwidth. The Westrex also goes up to no more than 17k I believe. But its strength actually lies in the highs. Living with these carts change my perception of the need for bandwidth that goes beyond my ears.
 
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