Bayz Audio Counterpoint 2.0 >>>>Rhapsody.Audio

[awsmone]

Those big red horns sound great

 

[musicfirst1]

Those big red horns sound great

Wow, now THAT would be a VERY interesting to compare and contrast the Courantes to those horns!!

 

[Tango]

Those big red horns sound great

You are kidding.

 

[John57]

Those big red horns sound great

I thought so too...

 

[awsmone]

I thought it funny that you can only see the red horns in a video of Bayz

 

[Zoltan Bay]

Those big red horns sound great

I understand the joke ............

 

[Beachman]

What’s your role at Bayz Audio?

Hi John57. My role at Bayz Audio is consultant, both technical and marketing. This is very broad and covers new products/designs, proper installations, target markets, presenting at exhibitions, and other miscellaneous tasks including English translations (although Zoltan's English is very good and his German and native Hungarian languages are excellent). I hope this answers your question. If not, please let me know if I can be of assistance.

 

[musicfirst1]

Wow, now THAT would be a VERY interesting to compare and contrast the Courantes to those horns!!

Zoltan
Any chance someone could comment on the Courantes vs the horns? Enquiring minds want to know!

 

[John57]

Hi John57. My role at Bayz Audio is consultant, both technical and marketing. This is very broad and covers new products/designs, proper installations, target markets, presenting at exhibitions, and other miscellaneous tasks including English translations (although Zoltan's English is very good and his German and native Hungarian languages are excellent). I hope this answers your question. If not, please let me know if I can be of assistance.

Thanks mate. Appreciate the clarity and precision here.

 

[Beachman]

Zoltan
Any chance someone could comment on the Courantes vs the horns? Enquiring minds want to know!

Having not auditioned the speakers shown in the picture, Bayz Audio has no “hands on” experience to share. It’s comparing “apples-and-oranges” and will largely depend on personal preference.

 

[Rhapsody]

TAS visit which included the Bayz Audio Counterpoint listening session-

http://www.theabsolutesound.com/articles/rhapsody-at-rhapsody/

 

[Bobvin]

Nice! If ever there exists a place to indulge in the joy of hearing the not-so-common, esoteric, artfully crafted fineries of this hobby, Bob’s Rhapsody is the place. Looking forward to an opportunity to visit again.

 

[Rhapsody]

We would have fun if you get to come back here!

 

[John57]

So there are these types of speakers and their variations
Traditional box type
Electrostatic
Open Baffle
Omni-directional
Horn

The BayzAudio designs fit the Omni-directional set. We typically have models in our minds how each of these sounds.

From the review, the sound signature is attached. We don’t have a baseline across different power amp supplies reports yet. And there’s a question raised of subtlety vs forward presentation or the ability to do both. This might be room related too.

I appreciate this experience report for raising counterpoints. It’s in this way we stop hubris forming. Like I’ve seen before with Mola Mola and Lampizator for examples.

Thanks for posting this. The new Courant design sounds a worthwhile upgrade.

 

[Rhapsody]

So there are these types of speakers and their variations
Traditional box type
Electrostatic
Open Baffle
Omni-directional
Horn

The BayzAudio designs fit the Omni-directional set. We typically have models in our minds how each of these sounds.

From the review, these Bayz speakers have a forward sound presentation. We don’t have a baseline across different power amp supplies reports yet. And there’s a question raised of subtlety vs forward presentation or the ability to do both. This might be room related too.

I appreciate this experience report for raising counterpoints. It’s in this way we stop hubris forming. Like I’ve seen before with Mola Mola and Lampizator for examples.

Thanks for posting this. The new Courant design sounds a worthwhile upgrade.

With classical the Bayz are more from speaker to back and way back beyond the back wall. With Jazz they bring the musicians into the room. With pop/rock, totally recording dependent they are room encompassing with power, solidity and great transparency.

It's hard for me to describe their sound. They are pretty special.

 

[John57]

With classical the Bayz are more from speaker to back and way back beyond the back wall. With Jazz they bring the musicians into the room. With pop/rock, totally recording dependent they are room encompassing with power, solidity and great transparency.

It's hard for me to describe their sound. They are pretty special.

You are helping define a new language for a new speaker design actually.

 

[musicfirst1]

So there are these types of speakers and their variations
Traditional box type
Electrostatic
Open Baffle
Omni-directional
Horn

The BayzAudio designs fit the Omni-directional set. We typically have models in our minds how each of these sounds.

From the review, these Bayz speakers have a forward sound presentation. We don’t have a baseline across different power amp supplies reports yet. And there’s a question raised of subtlety vs forward presentation or the ability to do both. This might be room related too.

I appreciate this experience report for raising counterpoints. It’s in this way we stop hubris forming. Like I’ve seen before with Mola Mola and Lampizator for examples.

Thanks for posting this. The new Courante design sounds a worthwhile upgrade.

I'm not sure the use of the word 'forward' as it is traditionally used in audio, would describe the sonics of Bayz speakers. I think of tonality and projection when I hear 'forward' as a descriptor. The Bayz are not forward in these respects.

The new Courantes are indeed a significant step up from the previous design and are now much closer to the sonics of the bigger Counterpoints. The acoustic centre is now the same height for both speakers, and as a result it is now very difficult to tell the difference between the imaging characteristics of the two speakers.

 

[Rhapsody]

You are helping define a new language for a new speaker design actually.

What either the Courante or the Counterpoint do is give back whatever the recording provides. On certain classical pieces, if recorded as such then it can be room encompassing and bringing the musicians into the room.

With a string quartet more than not the presentation is going to bring the musicians into the room.

With Jazz, same thing although with a trio or quartet the recordings usually lend to provide in room musicians and their instruments.

Again, with rock/pop totally dependent on the recording as to the type of sonic presentation that is presented.

With horns I believe they have a more forward characteristic presentation that is usually noticeable on any recording, where as with the Bayz, it can seem more room enveloping on certain recordings, but I never sense the presentation as forward.

 

[Rhapsody]

Bayz Audio Courante with Pilium Alexander preamp and Achilles stereo amplifier.

 

[sbnx]

Bayz Audio Courante with Pilium Alexander preamp and Achilles stereo amplifier.

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Question: Why do you toe the speakers in? The "driver" is radiating in 360 degrees. Perhaps you are trying to control the diffused reflection from the pipe in the rear.