Chest pain severity not a heart attack indicator

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Chest pain severity not a heart attack indicator
Thursday, August 11, 2011
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NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - A high degree of pain does not make it any more likely that someone coming into the emergency room with chest pains is having a heart attack, researchers found in a study of more than 3,000 patients.

The most severe chest pain was not a good predictor of which patients were actually having a myocardial infarction, or heart attack, nor of which patients were most prone to having one within the next month.

Conversely, "If chest pain isn't severe, that doesn't mean it's not a heart attack," said Dr. Anna Marie Chang, an author of the study and an emergency physician at the Hospital of the University of Pennsylvania.

Using a scale of zero to 10, with zero representing no pain and 10 being the worst imaginable, researchers gauged the pain levels of about 3,300 patients who arrived at the UPenn hospital emergency department complaining of chest pain. They then followed the patients for 30 days to see who had further heart-related events.

Patients with the most severe chest pain were no more likely to be having a heart attack, or to have one within the next month, than patients with lesser pain. Pain that lasted more than an hour was also not a useful sign of a heart attack versus other conditions.

Chest pain of any severity should be cause for concern, experts caution. Pain is a red flag for other serious health problems, too, such as stomach ulcers or a tear in the aorta, the heart's main artery, like the one that killed actor John Ritter in 2003.

"The cause of chest pain may or may not be a heart attack, but it could definitely be something serious," said Dr. James Feldman, an emergency physician at Boston Medical Center who was not involved in the study.

Classic heart attack symptoms do include chest pain or pressure, but other hallmarks are shortness of breath, nausea, vomiting and faintness.

Moreover, the pain of a heart attack doesn't always settle in the chest area.

"Pain may occur in the chest, arm, jaw, back or abdomen and may be described differently by different people," said Dr. Rajiv Gulati, a cardiologist at the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minnesota, who was not involved in the study.

Although in the study pain severity wasn't a good indicator of who was having a heart attack at the hospital, having arrived at the emergency department in an ambulance was.

That may be because people tend to dismiss chest pain until they are having symptoms they deem serious enough to warrant calling emergency services, Feldman explained.

"If you are only waiting for crushing chest pain, you may wait to delay care, and that would be a problem," he said. "Any chest pain is a serious complaint and means you need to seek medical care right away."

"Unexplained chest discomfort should be taken seriously, regardless of the intensity of pain," Gulati agreed. "Early evaluation can save lives."

The current findings, published in the Annals of Emergency Medicine, could also help save doctors money by helping them judge who is and is not having a heart attack.

Failures to diagnose acute myocardial infarction account for 20 percent of malpractice claims paid out, the authors note, and some two to five percent of patients who are having heart attacks are inappropriately discharged from emergency departments.

SOURCE: http://bit.ly/rsYHcU Annals of Emergency Medicine, online August 1, 2011.

Reuters Health
 

amirm

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Interesting. I must say, I am paranoid of any and all pain in my upper area. Can a layperson tell what is related to a heart problem and what is not?
 

amirm

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Thanks Steve. On a related note, I was talking to the fire marshal where our vacation house is, wondering if I am better off driving myself to ER or calling 911, seeing how we are 20+ minutes away from them. He said I was still better off waiting as they would have drugs and such to bring the situation under control (question wasn't about heart attack but emergencies in general). Is that good advice or if you have someone around, they should drive you to ER?
 

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I'd have to disagree with the Marshall on this one. In a trauma event, you have what is called the "Golden Hour". These are the first critical minutes in which decisions must be made and carried out to provide a positive outcome. "IF" you KNOW that someone can get you to the emergency room quicker than EMT's can provide life saving treatment, then dial 911 and let them know you are on the way, or at least meet them in-route. If the difference is only 10-15 min, then by all means, wait for First Responders. You must have an emergency plan already in effect BEFORE anything happens, especially if this is a vacation home.
 

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I'd have to disagree with the Marshall on this one. In a trauma event, you have what is called the "Golden Hour". These are the first critical minutes in which decisions must be made and carried out to provide and positive outcome. "IF" you KNOW that someone can get you to the emergency room quicker than EMT's can provide life saving treatment, then dial 911 and let them know you are on the way. If the difference is only 10-15 min, then by all means, wait for First Responders. You must have an emergency plan already in effect BEFORE anything happens, especially if this is a vacation home.

Good point. However, Amir was talking about driving himself. That poses another layer of danger for the situation.

Lee
 

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Good point. However, Amir was talking about driving himself. That poses another layer of danger for the situation.
Lee

Oh, hell no... don't do that. You could kill someone else if you suddenly lost consciousness.
 

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Oh, no. I was talking about someone else driving me. I like the idea of calling 911 and then planning on meeting them half way if advised.

Lucky for us they opened a new hospital which is much closer than it used to be (30 to 40 minutes away). Someone said to make sure your retirement home is within half hour of a hospital. When I was younger I didn't think that was important but do now!
 

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My friend had his heart attack sitting in his car while talking to his MD wife on the cellphone. She called 911 and they came to his car. Get thee to a hospital! Be prepared to spend the night. They don't want you to go home and die. I spent the weekend.
 

Steve Williams

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Oh, no. I was talking about someone else driving me. I like the idea of calling 911 and then planning on meeting them half way if advised.

Lucky for us they opened a new hospital which is much closer than it used to be (30 to 40 minutes away). Someone said to make sure your retirement home is within half hour of a hospital. When I was younger I didn't think that was important but do now!

As I said Amir, chew an adult aspirin and get yourself Stat to the ER. Never drive yourself.
 

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