Linear Power supply for turntable motor

Maril555

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I just bought Dereneville DAE-01 SP motor, that comes standard with a wall wart, so I need a better PSU
The obvious option is the Dereneville own DPS 24 PSU, which is kind of expensive at around $1000.
The motor is 24 VDC.
So far, I have only found Teddy Pardo "Teddy24" model, that offers 24 V output.
Paul Hynes doesn't seem to offer 24 V options.
I'm looking for other suggestions.
Thank you much in advance
 

Maril555

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Check the Keces P8, I am very happy the performance of this Power supply
 

Maril555

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Check the Keces P8, I am very happy the performance of this Power supply
Thank you,
I've read some positive reviews about Keces P8
What connector does your motor use?
 

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Thank you,
I've read some positive reviews about Keces P8
What connector does your motor use?
My Keces P8 is dual output and is supplying Phoenix Engineering custom amplifier/controller and Phoenix Engineering Roadrunner.

The controller/amplifier is supplying then my Phoenix Engineering dual BLDC rim Drive.

this power supply made a considerable sound improvement.
 

shakti

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In Germany Keces P8 is 700,- eur (recommended retail), so $1000 for the original Dereneville LPS ist not too far away.
Why not combining the not cheap Dereneville motor with the "correct" LPS?
 

Maril555

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In Germany Keces P8 is 700,- eur (recommended retail), so $1000 for the original Dereneville LPS ist not too far away.
Why not combining the not cheap Dereneville motor with the "correct" LPS?
No particular reason.
Want to know about available options.
BTW, when you tried Dereneville motor, was it with his LPS?
 

Maril555

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Or, a better question is, did you have a chance to compare it with any other LPSs?
 

shakti

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No particular reason.
Want to know about available options.
BTW, when you tried Dereneville motor, was it with his LPS?
I had that time the original LPS and a Dr. Feickert LPS available
 

shakti

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Or, a better question is, did you have a chance to compare it with any other LPSs?
The original one can be bettered, so I asked DERAINER to do a better one as option :)
 
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Maril555

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When you say “original one”, do you mean a switching mode wall wart?
 

shakti

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Maril555

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I’m really curious how Dereneville DPS24 compares to other established aftermarket offerings like Teddy Pardo, Keces P8, Paul Hynes SR7
 

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shakti

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I did a time ago a LPS comparison with different Feickert one, the Sikora LPS, the Keces P8 and the Keces EPhono LPS.
Additional different DC wires , with and without JSSG shielding, with and without Oyaide terminals.

Conclusion is, that the DC wire makes similar important effects, than the LPS in its own.

The best was the Feickert battery PSU, unfortunately only be seen on the second hand market today.

As Keces is very popular in Germany and can handle up to three units, I went for the Keces P8. Prior the P8 I do use a simple net filtering device, my DC cable is the Gotham JSSG/Oyaide from Ghentaudio.
 

marty

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I just bought Dereneville DAE-01 SP motor, that comes standard with a wall wart, so I need a better PSU
The obvious option is the Dereneville own DPS 24 PSU, which is kind of expensive at around $1000.
The motor is 24 VDC.
So far, I have only found Teddy Pardo "Teddy24" model, that offers 24 V output.
Paul Hynes doesn't seem to offer 24 V options.
I'm looking for other suggestions.
Thank you much in advance
Honestly, you're over-thinking this. I've been using a Hewlett Packard E3616A DC power supply for my Goldmund Studio turntable for over a decade. Can be set for constant voltage or current. 24V DC with superb performance. You can find these used for a few hundred dollars or less.
https://www.ebay.com/c/2254312343
Built like a tank with flawless, noiseless performance with real specifications that will outlast you. When are audiophiles going to realize they are paying exorbitant prices for LPS units that are not the equal of a good HP or Agilent industrial power supply?
 

Maril555

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Now you talking!
Honestly, you're over-thinking this. I've been using a Hewlett Packard E3616A DC power supply for my Goldmund Studio turntable for over a decade. Can be set for constant voltage or current. 24V DC with superb performance. You can find these used for a few hundred dollars or less.
https://www.ebay.com/c/2254312343
Built like a tank with flawless, noiseless performance with real specifications that will outlast you. When are audiophiles going to realize they are paying exorbitant prices for LPS units that are not the equal of a good HP or Agilent industrial power supply?
marty,
Funny you should ask “when audiophiles gonna learn?”

NEVER!

But thank you for the link
 

shakti

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J Sikora has developed a new "Reference LPS", which looks promising.
I believe, they were motivated by the many pictures I have posted, showing their Reference Turntable with a Keces P8 LPS :)

Had not the chance to try it, but hopefully will have a chance to do soon.

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Vienna

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Hi Shakti

are the Sikora motors BLDC or AC synchronous?
if they are AC synchronous it means that the DC power is then converted to AC, as it was happening with my old Phoenix Eagle power supply and Hirst motors.
if they are BLDC how the speed is being controlled?
 

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