Rockport Speakers - So any owners use third party isolation instead of supplied spikes

davros

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Hi All

As an owner of Rockport Aviors, wondering if anyone uses something different then the supplied spikes to isolate/couple the speaker?
I’ve got hardwood floors on top of a concrete pad and these have me interested:

http://www.townshendaudio.com/hi-fi...e-cinema-vibration-isolation-speaker-podiums/

Possibly even Stillpoints or something similar.

I do find the speakers sound better when the spikes are in direct contact with the floor as opposed to using pucks but unfortunately the damage it causes to the floor is not sustainable long term.

Cheers
 

sujay

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Hi All

As an owner of Rockport Aviors, wondering if anyone uses something different then the supplied spikes to isolate/couple the speaker?
I’ve got hardwood floors on top of a concrete pad and these have me interested:

http://www.townshendaudio.com/hi-fi...e-cinema-vibration-isolation-speaker-podiums/

Possibly even Stillpoints or something similar.

I do find the speakers sound better when the spikes are in direct contact with the floor as opposed to using pucks but unfortunately the damage it causes to the floor is not sustainable long term.

Cheers
Hi, I use the townshend audio seismic podium custom made for my Rockport Aviors, they are excellent. I have tried both Finite Element and Stein music footers.while the Stein are good, the townshend imo are better and provide more stability.
 

gfroman

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Stillpoint Ultra SS with bases under my 600lb Evolution Acoustics MM3 speakers.
 

LL21

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I am a big fan of Ultra 5s for my speakers. However, if you like your spikes, perhaps try to find a cup whose sound you are happy with?
 

SuperDave

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I use what Andy supplied. IME, footers change the sound, some better some worse.

Dave
 

davros

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Thanks for the replies.
I’ve been checking out the Townshend Isolation Podiums.
Hard to say what difference they will make on my non-suspended floors.
No ability to trial them first.

Can get access to some Ultra 5’s to try out.

I went through this to a lesser extent when I owned Magicos but that was with carpeted floors.
 

jfrech

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Why do you think you have a issue? Or just wanting to tweak? I suspect it'll be a mixed bag and you might be better off spending a buck somewhere else...
 

davros

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Hi Jeff

That’s a good question.

Coming from Magicos, missing the bass definition I had with their sealed cabinets and mid bass punch. I believe some if this is room related as there is definition but it’s being masked by uneven bass response I didn’t get with the Magicos.
Also wanting some more micro detail and dynamics.

Lots of positives of course and no speaker is perfect, as I find the Rockport sound more natural and organic with a better allround appeal with the type of music I listen too (rock & pop). Just want some more energy and excitement at times.

Don’t think it’s the amplification as I’m using CH Precision L1, X1 and M1.1.
Digital is with a Esoteric K-01. The again, maybe it’s not the right match?

I do have some room treatment coming shortly in the form or bass diffuser traps and side wall diffuser/absorbtion.

Thanks

Dave
 

jfrech

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Hi Dave. (It's John btw) I almost said what about your room. I think your electronics/digital is great. Those Aviors I've heard at my dealer plenty of times. They don't lack mid bass punch and definition. I'm thinking it's either speaker placement and something room related. Given your investment, I might get a professional to analyze your room and get the best out of it via bass traps, diffusors and absorption. Another idea is what is your equipment sitting on? My Grand Prix Silverstone stands really bring out the bass definition, punch, and lower noise everywhere allowing more resolution. If you don't have a good rack, this might be another consideration.
 

nonesup

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Stillpoint Ultra SS con bases debajo de mis altavoces MM3 Evolution Acoustics 600lb. [/ QUOTE]

Same configuration here
 

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davros

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Hi Dave. (It's John btw) I almost said what about your room. I think your electronics/digital is great. Those Aviors I've heard at my dealer plenty of times. They don't lack mid bass punch and definition. I'm thinking it's either speaker placement and something room related. Given your investment, I might get a professional to analyze your room and get the best out of it via bass traps, diffusors and absorption. Another idea is what is your equipment sitting on? My Grand Prix Silverstone stands really bring out the bass definition, punch, and lower noise everywhere allowing more resolution. If you don't have a good rack, this might be another consideration.
Hi John (sorry about the mixup on the name)

I’ve had my room analysed by a professional using REW and have a heap of treatment coming that includes floor to ceiling bass traps, diffusion and some side wall absorption.

Any of the panels that have absorption also have a diffuser on the front to avoid taking too much of the higher frequencies away, as I find the Rockports very natural in this area and can understand why some people might find them dark sounding (I’m a former Magico owner).

A friend lent me his Aurios Pro Isolation Feet that I have tried under the speakers. It did give me a cleaner midrange and top end in some respects but leaned out the bass even more and just didn’t sound right.

As of today, I’ve removed the hardwood floor spike protectors and have them directly on the floorboards even though they are leaving a small dent, it does sound better this way. The other thing I did was adjust the rake angle so the speaker is tilted more forward and this has helped homogenise the sound and provided more detailed in the mid to higher frequency range.

So many things I love about these speakers. In combination with my CH Precision equipment, it’s providing the cleanest presentation with absolutely no fatigue that I’ve ever had in my system. Will wait and see what the room treatments bring to the table.

Thanks to the other members for your replies too. I do have an option to try stillpoints, not sure how to put them under the speaker without scratching the base. The Aurios were designed for the spike to go into the top of them.

Cheers

Dave
 
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spiritofmusic

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Seriously consider Arya Audio Revopods. A set of 4 supports up to 120kg. Have transformed the fortunes of my Zus.
 

David

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Hi John (sorry about the mixup on the name)

I’ve had my room analysed by a professional using REW and have a heap of treatment coming that includes floor to ceiling bass traps, diffusion and some side wall absorption.

Any of the panels that have absorption also have a diffuser on the front to avoid taking too much of the higher frequencies away, as I find the Rockports very natural in this area and can understand why some people might find them dark sounding (I’m a former Magico owner).

A friend lent me his Aurios Pro Isolation Feet that I have tried under the speakers. It did give me a cleaner midrange and top end in some respects but leaned out the bass even more and just didn’t sound right.

As of today, I’ve removed the hardwood floor spike protectors and have them directly on the floorboards even though they are leaving a small dent, it does sound better this way. The other thing I did was adjust the rake angle so the speaker is tilted more forward and this has helped homogenise the sound and provided more detailed in the mid to higher frequency range.

So many things I love about these speakers. In combination with my CH Precision equipment, it’s providing the cleanest presentation with absolutely no fatigue that I’ve ever had in my system. Will wait and see what the room treatments bring to the table.

Thanks to the other members for your replies too. I do have an option to try stillpoints, not sure how to put them under the speaker without scratching the base. The Aurios were designed for the spike to go into the top of them.

Cheers

Dave
Dave,

Did you tried that ? :
- try to put a full wood platform between your floor and your speakers (wood platform directly on the floor)
- but a wood with a very good density ; something as Plywood or "Bois de bout" (bois de bout = wood assembled from several pieces, and compressed .... = something in fact quite similar to what use the butchers).
cf example here : https://www.amazon.com/Butcher-Block-Acoustics-Isolation-Platform/dp/B07D25VWBP
The solution "bois de bout" has been my choise after many tests.
- the wood platform just need to be not too slim !
- and you put the spikes directly on the wood (no interface with something else)

It is something quite simple to test. Into my room and with my previous system (Rockport Atria and Pass labs), it has been an impressive upgrade for the the sound (more clean & more resolution in the bass frequencies ..; but also more natural & relaxed at the same time ... AND without changing of tonal balance ; which is the problem introcuced by many accessories).

I have tested many accessories : Stillpoints, Franc audio accessories , Finite elemente, Harmonix, etc ...
all of them introduced some positive things , but in same time bad things ... each time the global tonal balance was modified and at the end, it was not good.
Stillpoints & Harmonix gave the best results from my opinion.
But at the end, the best solution has been what i explain above.
I do not look anymore at any accessories.

Well, that's my feedback & advice :)

BR - David
 

nonesup

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If someone is interested in RevOpods, I have a set of 4 units 120 Kg, which I sell at 50%.
 

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GSOphile

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Anybody tried IsoAcoustics GAIAs? A friend used them on Magico's and was pleased with the results. 2019-2020 EISA Best Product Award.
 

Rob181

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Dave - the Townshends will make a difference - trials a mate did whilst I was there used springs specially tensioned to support his speaker weight & the difference between solid floor connection - spikes et al - & springs was significant. The decoupled speaker's musical presentation improved - a great bang for buck investment. I have them under my new speakers & would not remove them. Whether you like the new musical presentation is an individual & personal assessment.
 
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gds7368

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Hi Jeff

That’s a good question.

Coming from Magicos, missing the bass definition I had with their sealed cabinets and mid bass punch. I believe some if this is room related as there is definition but it’s being masked by uneven bass response I didn’t get with the Magicos.
Also wanting some more micro detail and dynamics.

Lots of positives of course and no speaker is perfect, as I find the Rockport sound more natural and organic with a better allround appeal with the type of music I listen too (rock & pop). Just want some more energy and excitement at times.

Don’t think it’s the amplification as I’m using CH Precision L1, X1 and M1.1.
Digital is with a Esoteric K-01. The again, maybe it’s not the right match?

I do have some room treatment coming shortly in the form or bass diffuser traps and side wall diffuser/absorbtion.

Thanks

Dave
Which Magico's did you have? Interesting bass comments (I own M Projects)
 

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