Schroder LT x Kuzma 4 point x Graham Elite x SME V-12

[bonzo75]

There is a big difference between the reference and the LT due to no string bearing on the latter. Also Steve says latter has much better bass

 

[cyclopse]

There is a big difference between the reference and the LT due to no string bearing on the latter. Also Steve says latter has much better bass

How many other tonearms have an adjustable bearing? This is by adjusting the magnet gap as you probably know.

 

[bonzo75]

How many other tonearms have an adjustable bearing? This is by adjusting the magnet gap as you probably know.

Ok didn't know that.

At Munich last year on the same table they had the Schroeder CB with an Allaerts boron mk2 and the LT with a Lyra (etna, iirc). I preferred the Allaerts. That said I don't trust hifi show set ups, but was good to know the cart drove the decision

 

[VPN]

The one I am selling has wood arm, silver wiring with RCA. It can be changed to metal arm by Steve.

 

[cyclopse]

But you make a fair point Ked. The bass is the toughest to get working well on the Reference.

 

[infinitely baffled]

The one I am selling has wood arm, silver wiring with RCA. It can be changed to metal arm by Steve.

Can i ask, did you sell your arm?

 

[VPN]

Can i ask, did you sell your arm?

Hi, Thanks for asking! I have not sold: (i) my schroder LT and (ii) my Technics SP10 mk.3 modded by Steve Dobbins. I have not placed a proper sale ad yet... Anybody interested in either, please send me a message. Cheers, VPN

 

[Puroplatino]

BruceD,


Thank you for sharing your views. It is nice to see several people voting for the Kuzma 4 Point. At the same time, so far I have not heard anything negative said about the Schroder LT, so currently these two seem to be top choices.

Regarding listening for myself, that was easier when I lived in NYC and could have equipment demoed in my system, but now living in Brazil, in practice it is impossible to compare these tonearms in my system. Also, I am now buying my first Vinyl rig in over twenty years, just bought the turntable and phono preamp, and will soon buy the tonearm and cartridge.

I will try to go to CES and some audio dealers and listen to these tonearms, but with different turntables and cartridges (and speakers, amps, preamp, cables, etc) it would be rather difficult to fairly compare tonearms. Consequently I have to gather the opinions from fellow audiophiles and just buy one.

Cheers,

VPN

The only potential drawback of the LT is they prefer a stable platform. If you have something like a Minus K that Döhmann uses it can be a problem. That’s why in the Helix One Döhmann uses a different Schröder and not the LT as it is very sensible to any minimal vibration or rack movement. If this isn’t a problem I say go with the LT. If on the other hand you have a rack which absorbs vibrations by allowing movement of the rack then go for the Kuzma 4 point.

 

[bonzo75]

The only potential drawback of the LT is they prefer a stable platform. If you have something like a Minus K that Döhmann uses it can be a problem. That’s why in the Helix One Döhmann uses a different Schröder and not the LT as it is very sensible to any minimal vibration or rack movement. If this isn’t a problem I say go with the LT. If on the other hand you have a rack which absorbs vibrations by allowing movement of the rack then go for the Kuzma 4 point.

thanks. do you have any friends with the LT, what carts are they using

 

[jfrech]

The only potential drawback of the LT is they prefer a stable platform. If you have something like a Minus K that Döhmann uses it can be a problem. That’s why in the Helix One Döhmann uses a different Schröder and not the LT as it is very sensible to any minimal vibration or rack movement. If this isn’t a problem I say go with the LT. If on the other hand you have a rack which absorbs vibrations by allowing movement of the rack then go for the Kuzma 4 point.

I agree with your points. I'll add that I've since moved from my 4-point to the Safir-9, it's a MUCH better arm in all areas. At this point, it's, by far, the favorite arm I've owned vs the SME IV.Vi, Tri-Planar, LT, Centroid and the previous 4-point.

 

[jfrech]

thanks. do you have any friends with the LT, what carts are they using

I used a Lyra Atlas, I have a friend that had a Lyra Etna and Olympus. I know the Lyras are a good match...

 

[bonzo75]

I used a Lyra Atlas, I have a friend that had a Lyra Etna and Olympus. I know the Lyras are a good match...

i have heard it on the Lyra atlas through the Rockport Lyra and CH stack. The Olympos is a very musical Lyra.

IIrc your LT had an issue with not having a stable platform?

 

[jfrech]

i have heard it on the Lyra atlas through the Rockport Lyra and CH stack. The Olympos is a very musical Lyra.

IIrc your LT had an issue with not having a stable platform?

Correct, I use Grand Prix Audio Silverstone F1 racks which have some sway to them, plus was on a 2nd floor so some flex in the floor joists.