Something new is coming from Magico...

spiritofmusic

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Glad to see Magico trying to keep up w Stacore, even down to the pricing.
 
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bonzo75

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This should sort out Gian's rack problem as he needs two
 
May 30, 2010
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(...) What I am really curious about is how the vibrations travel from the components down into those Magico shelves. It seems that a component's stock rubber footers would isolate and trap those vibrations in the chassis. Are they going to recommend replacing stock rubber feet with some kind of metal spike or footer that would transmit vibrations from the component into the shelf? Isolation vs. dissipation is a fascinating topic when it comes to Hifi.
Peter,

Debating strategies without firmly establish the objectives is always a mess. The only firmly established objective of a rack is keeping the equipment on place, all else is open to debate. The only reason I can see a speaker manufacturer selling a rack is modifying the sound signature of the equipment to suit his speakers, or just avoiding the sound signature of other racks.

Perhaps there is a third one - looking similar to the speakers. But it is a risky bet - many people prefer the wood texture and dislike the techno appearance of racks. If it was not for sound quality I would happily replace the fancy looking AF1 rack with a nice CMS or FiniteElement wood one.
 
May 30, 2010
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(...) Isolation is difficult - it is not straightforward to prevent energy from traveling (...)
Well my perspective is different - I would consider that isolation is easy - absorbing energy is not a problem. IMHO the real problem is that draining energy from equipment and isolation are conflicting requirements.

BTW, I think airborne feedback is not a problem most of the time - many experiments in the past have found that equipment sounds the same in the room and in the room aside.
 

PeterA

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Peter,

Debating strategies without firmly establish the objectives is always a mess. The only firmly established objective of a rack is keeping the equipment on place, all else is open to debate. The only reason I can see a speaker manufacturer selling a rack is modifying the sound signature of the equipment to suit his speakers, or just avoiding the sound signature of other racks.

Perhaps there is a third one - looking similar to the speakers.
But it is a risky bet - many people prefer the wood texture and dislike the techno appearance of racks. If it was not for sound quality I would happily replace the fancy looking AF1 rack with a nice CMS or FiniteElement wood one.
Thanks Francisco. I was not aware that I was debating strategies. In Magico's press release for this rack, they discuss energy dissipation. I'm simply curious how the energy from an electronic or source component will travel from the chassis to their rack shelf to be dissipated. Energy dissipation seems to be Magico's design strategy for the rack. They also have CNC machining capability in house, and perhaps extra capacity as they move toward more carbon fiber enclosures, so the material choice makes sense to me.

There may be another reason Magico is selling this rack: They want to make money. They are a business, with business interests. I presume that they think people will be interested in this rack and buy it. Yes, any new offering comes with some risk. It is possible that people traveling to the factory asked them about their racks in the demo room and they decided to explore the potential market for this product.

Regarding your decision based on sound quality to use the fancy looking AF1 rack: Have you compared the sound using a nice CMS or FiniteElement wood rack, or even some other alternative? How do you know the AF1 rack has better sound quality than some other rack system? I agree that aesthetics can be important in some contexts.
 

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