The Sheffield Lab Drum & Track Disc?

Bruce B

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Hi Bruce. I've just joined the WB forum purely to ask this question (well two actually), was Jim Keltner's cough right at the end of his improv reinstated on the DXD version? (it was deleted on the xrcd), and sonically what were the differences between the XRCD and DXD versions as I have the xrcd version and it sounds really punchy and dynamic. You can still hear the odd slight artefact from the original tape through headphones but the suppression of noise overall is pretty darn good.

Welcome!
The same source was used for both the XRCD and DXD versions.
I don't believe Winston wanted the cough at the end of the improv. The DXD version has a "wetter" feel. You can hear more of the room, thus we feel has even more impact.
 

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DXD version anomaly

Welcome!
The same source was used for both the XRCD and DXD versions.
I don't believe Winston wanted the cough at the end of the improv. The DXD version has a "wetter" feel. You can hear more of the room, thus we feel has even more impact.

Hi again Bruce. Managed to source the DXD version for which I have two observations. As the two drum solos are purely for dynamic effect with maximum impact I really think the drier xrcd version suits it much better as its a cleaner sound but that's purely my own personal preference. I might add finding a copy cost a small fortune but I found a disturbing error which may be a replication fault I don't know but you may know. On Jim Keltners improv at around 3:14 - 3:20 the left channel sputters and disintegrates which isn't on the xrcd version (see attached screenshot). Could this be a cd fault? Perhaps some members could check their own copies and let me know if the problem is real or with just my copy. Thanks in advance.
 

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Bruce B

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Hi again Bruce. Managed to source the DXD version for which I have two observations. As the two drum solos are purely for dynamic effect with maximum impact I really think the drier xrcd version suits it much better as its a cleaner sound but that's purely my own personal preference. I might add finding a copy cost a small fortune but I found a disturbing error which may be a replication fault I don't know but you may know. On Jim Keltners improv at around 3:14 - 3:20 the left channel sputters and disintegrates which isn't on the xrcd version (see attached screenshot). Could this be a cd fault? Perhaps some members could check their own copies and let me know if the problem is real or with just my copy. Thanks in advance.

As stated... the same source was used, but transfered at different times and with different equipment. That could be the difference you hear. Winston had the final say in which version was used. I provided 3-4 final production samples in which to choose from.
 

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He choose "wisely".

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fallingforstars

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As stated... the same source was used, but transfered at different times and with different equipment. That could be the difference you hear. Winston had the final say in which version was used. I provided 3-4 final production samples in which to choose from.

There is clearly a major sound fault (dropout) on the left channel only at 3:14 on the dxd version of track 1 that lasts about 6 seconds. Just need to know if its only my copy affected. Can anyone help before I take issue with the supplier?
Update:- I think the attached photo shows what may be responsible. There are in fact two visible imperfections - its virtually impossible to get them in one photo though.
 

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Brent71

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Wow, I just now found this thread and never knew there was a newer DXD master version. Of course it's now seemingly impossible to find. I have the original CD and the older XRCD, but would love to have this version.

What happened to everything FIM/LIM?
 

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