What's going on with the US stock market lately?

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What do you think is going on this time around? Record highs just about every week. Netflix up 160% YTD, Google over $900; but Apple deservedly lower... Does anyone see value right now?
 

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What do you think is going on this time around? Record highs just about every week. Netflix up 160% YTD, Google over $900; but Apple deservedly lower... Does anyone see value right now?
Wall Street is way ahead of the "street"
 

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What do you think is going on this time around? Record highs just about every week. Netflix up 160% YTD, Google over $900; but Apple deservedly lower... Does anyone see value right now?
Fed pumped money into the economy. Adding money with no value causes inflation. Rising water lifts all boats.

Welcome to Argentina!
 

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Fed pumped money into the economy. Adding money with no value causes inflation. Rising water lifts all boats.

Welcome to Argentina!
Fed said they will stop the bond buy-back program. What do you predict will happen then?
 

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Fed pumped money into the economy. Adding money with no value causes inflation. Rising water lifts all boats.

Welcome to Argentina!
Aka know as inflating asset bubbles - not supported by any fundamentals. I'm was thinking of investing in tulip bulbs myself. More apt economic analogy is Japan, not Argentina.
 

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What do you think is going on this time around? Record highs just about every week. Netflix up 160% YTD, Google over $900; but Apple deservedly lower... Does anyone see value right now?
Oh. Yeah. Almost forgot. Yesterday was Tuesday. The Dow always closes higher on Tuesday. (Last 18 Tuesdays, Anyhow!)
 

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Aka know as inflating asset bubbles - not supported by any fundamentals. I'm was thinking of investing in tulip bulbs myself. More apt economic analogy is Japan, not Argentina.
The process of significantly diluting the USD by printing more currency could be considered by many to be a fundamental change.
 

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You can't make any money by keeping your money in a savings account or CD. If your not in the market, where else do you stand a chance of making some money?
 

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You can't make any money by keeping your money in a savings account or CD. If your not in the market, where else do you stand a chance of making some money?
Real estate. Buy (preferably distressed) properties, rent them out for an 5-10% positive cash flow, watch them appreciate at 5-10% a year. Cost of funding is 3%-5%. Unfortunatly, a lot of investment funds are jumping on this opportunity and scooping up and bidding up the best properties. Plus it is A LOT more work than doing a few well timed mouseclicks on your schwab online trading account every now and then. Feels a like a lot lower risk to me though.
 

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Real estate. Buy (preferably distressed) properties, rent them out for an 5-10% positive cash flow, watch them appreciate at 5-10% a year. Cost of funding is 3%-5%. Unfortunatly, a lot of investment funds are jumping on this opportunity and scooping up and bidding up the best properties. Plus it is A LOT more work than doing a few well timed mouseclicks on your schwab online trading account every now and then. Feels a like a lot lower risk to me though.

Wall Street is buying up properties in distressed markets right now and renting them out which is causing another housing bubble in Las Vegas, Arizona, and Florida. I know you can make money by buying houses and renting them out, but who are you renting to? People with crappy credit and crappy jobs that can't afford or qualify for a conventional home loan. I personally am not willing to put up with the headaches of rental property. I don't want to get phone calls in the middle of the night that the renters flushed little Johnny's diaper down the toilet and now the bathroom is flooded or that their heater isn't working or the roof is leaking.
 

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You can't make any money by keeping your money in a savings account or CD. If your not in the market, where else do you stand a chance of making some money?
Lots of places to make money if one has the knowledge, the capital and an appropriate risk tolerance. Equities, Commodities and Derivatives markets are huge and lots of people make money both in "Up" markets and "Down" markets.
 

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Lots of places to make money if one has the knowledge, the capital and an appropriate risk tolerance. Equities, Commodities and Derivatives markets are huge and lots of people make money both in "Up" markets and "Down" markets.
Uh, aren't all of those investments part of the "market?"
 

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Wall Street is buying up properties in distressed markets right now and renting them out which is causing another housing bubble in Las Vegas, Arizona, and Florida. I know you can make money by buying houses and renting them out, but who are you renting to? People with crappy credit and crappy jobs that can't afford or qualify for a conventional home loan. I personally am not willing to put up with the headaches of rental property. I don't want to get phone calls in the middle of the night that the renters flushed little Johnny's diaper down the toilet and now the bathroom is flooded or that their heater isn't working or the roof is leaking.
I don't blame you, but there are lots of highly qualified good renters, that have destoyed their credit and can't get a loan to buy. Good judgment of character (more so than running checks) is of the essence. You can also use a property management company.
 

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Funny that you guys mention real estate, 'cause I moved into RE funds heavily recently.
 

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Uh, aren't all of those investments part of the "market?"
Sure, but the point is that the same things; knowledge, capital and an appropriate risk tolerance, are required for just about any investment alternative, same as the market; same as real estate, etc. Risk levels equate to return, more risk usually means more return; capital and risk tolerance are the other two important variables in any of these undertakings. When all three are optimized there is usually a better than average chance of "making some money".
 

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