Vyger Atlantis - my new turntable :)

[bonzo75]

Hi Chau,

I haven’t noticed too much bass in the systems that I regularly hear (mine and General’s) with the Vyger in play. The bass certainly goes deeper (a lot deeper than my SME30/2) but importantly it is full of musical content - this latter part is the key to this.

You can always tailor this parameter somewhat using loading on the phonostage and speaker positioning if you want to fine tune.

On a somewhat controversial point, I don’t see myself returning to tangential arms after using the Vyger solution.

Cheers

I agree, I have heard Vyger in 4 systems now, it seems quite linear and not too much bass. I will get to compare at Gian's. What Chau is hearing might be a function of YouTube or of combination with Opus or both. Gian can tell us if what Chau is hearing on YouTube actually exists in his room

 

[gian60]

I put Opus on Vyger because with Bergmann the sound was little light
Also my speaker has bass very good,very fast and very deep but not full light Wilson for exemple
With Opus on bergmann the balance was ok
Vyger has one incredible bass and midbass ,very full,powerful,and deep that I never listen in my home and I like a lot
Also Opus 1 has same sound full powerful deep and in some recording is perfect and few recording the midbass seems little too much
I will try Atlas sl and GFS that are little light than Opus and could be will be little better
But not sure because opus is very special cart

 

[morricab]

I put Opus on Vyger because with Bergmann the sound was little light
Also my speaker has bass very good,very fast and very deep but not full light Wilson for exemple
With Opus on bergmann the balance was ok
Vyger has one incredible bass and midbass ,very full,powerful,and deep that I never listen in my home and I like a lot
Also Opus 1 has same sound full powerful deep and in some recording is perfect and few recording the midbass seems little too much
I will try Atlas sl and GFS that are little light than Opus and could be will be little better
But not sure because opus is very special cart

So, then Chau's impression of the bass being a bit strong is not completely out there it seems. Also, the S5MkII have a looser tuning on the bass than the Q series Magicos. The two together might call for a leaner cartridge...

 

[infinitely baffled]

Beautiful turntable, Bill.
I'm following with interest

 

[Audiophile Bill]

Beautiful turntable, Bill.
I'm following with interest

Hi Gavin,

Hope you are well. I think you will definitely love the Vyger.

Any progress on speakers?

 

[infinitely baffled]

In a word, No

Two other projects have elbowed their way to the head of the queue.
Upgrading power amp to a 2160, and building a geodesic dome outside in my amphitheatre, so creating a large space for a whole new system

 

[spiritofmusic]

Bill, how does the single arm concept work if you want to switch to listening mono lps?

Simple case of swapping out armwands?

 

[spiritofmusic]

Every self respecting audiophile should at the very least have an amphitheatre, a geodesic dome is a reasonable user option.

 

[zerostargeneral]

Dear Chau,

I have owned 99% of turntables worth consideration.The latest Vyger iterations are my ultimate choice.
I do not know Gian,I have read many of his posts and respect and admire his systems and knowledge.
Equally I do not know Mr. Tang but respect his path and system.Both manage to convey passion and excellence in a foreign tongue.

Fortunately for me I have not lived a life full of bigotry and self entitled twaddle,as such I massively respect these gentlemen and others like them;Larry,Andromeda,853,Big T et al.

One arm,one cartridge great condition vinyl(mono and stereo)

Bill,Kedar and Larry are now good friends to me and I respect their input(loosely)and their heartfelt enthusiasm.

Please may I suggest you contact Enrico for him to personally install for you?

As an aside,I like all low compliance mc and mi devices,I use the Red Sparrow,Sumile,Benz LPs,Garrot Brothers paratrace Blue,Grey bodied FFSS.

The Krimon has my head but the Mayer makes me weep(J Field-Bruch).

I would not part with either.

Kindest regards,G.

 

[Barry2013]

Welcome to the club General.
I will look forward to reading your future posts when I hope you will share some more of your love of music with us.

 

[zerostargeneral]

Thank you sir for your kind words of welcome.

Kindest regards,G.

 

[infinitely baffled]

Every self respecting audiophile should at the very least have an amphitheatre, a geodesic dome is a reasonable user option.

Innit

I should specify 'hand dug amphitheatre'
It's the 'free range' of earthworks, don't you know.

It give far better acoustics through superior reverb control no it doesn't i just ran out money

 

[infinitely baffled]

On a somewhat controversial point, I don’t see myself returning to tangential arms after using the Vyger solution.

Cheers

Fascinating..i had perhaps gained the impression that linear tracking arms lost a little bass weight compared to tangentially tracking arms.
This was reinforced by the opinion of Chris at Artisan Fidelity, who said the Kuzma Airline did not go as deep as a Kuzma 4point when mounted on his decks.
I'm guessing you wouldn't say that you are missing any bass weight?

 

[PeterA]

Fascinating..i had perhaps gained the impression that linear tracking arms lost a little bass weight compared to tangentially tracking arms.
This was reinforced by the opinion of Chris at Artisan Fidelity, who said the Kuzma Airline did not go as deep as a Kuzma 4point when mounted on his decks.
I'm guessing you wouldn't say that you are missing any bass weight?

A linear tracking arm tracks tangentially to the groove, so is not a linear tracking arm the same as a tangentially tracking arm? I think the distinction Chris is making is between the linear tracking Kuzma Airline and the pivoting Kuzma 4point.

 

[spiritofmusic]

IB, yep it's a commonly accepted piece of wisdom that linear tracking arms don't do bass.

As POTUS would say, fake news!

 

[Audiophile Bill]

Fascinating..i had perhaps gained the impression that linear tracking arms lost a little bass weight compared to tangentially tracking arms.
This was reinforced by the opinion of Chris at Artisan Fidelity, who said the Kuzma Airline did not go as deep as a Kuzma 4point when mounted on his decks.
I'm guessing you wouldn't say that you are missing any bass weight?

Hi Gavin,

The Vyger has plenty of deep textured bass and tremendous slam. More bass quality than any TT I have heard. Think you’ll be good

 

[spiritofmusic]

Hey, I only have a lowly £800 linear arm when compared to Vyger arm, but if it lacks anything, it's not bass.

Indeed it's fascinating spiking expectation bias of visitors when they see this 5" armwand sliding up and down a rail cushioned by 2psi of air from a commercial aquarium pump.

"WHERE did that bass come from?!" being a typical q.

Of course, where did it go is a natural follow up, as agility in my setup is so exemplary.

I'm sure even more so w Vyger.

 

[zerostargeneral]

A linear tracking arm tracks tangentially to the groove, so is not a linear tracking arm the same as a tangentially tracking arm? I think the distinction Chris is making is between the linear tracking Kuzma Airline and the pivoting Kuzma 4point.

Dear sir, tangential is the gerund of tangent i.e;a point of intersection between a line and a curve.

The number of nulls or tangents with regard to fixed,anchored arms is curve-setting dependant.

Linear arms are constantly perpendicular therefore the nulls are theoretically infinite.

Whereas anchored arms can only achieve a maximum of three nulls per LP during playback,linear ones never deviate from the apex or non trivial zero plot(x,y,z) where z=time.

If I am able to connect my scanner to my pc I will draw to better explain.

Kindest regards,G.

 

[bonzo75]

But while listening to your vinyl Z comes to a standstill, so linear and tangential are the same?

 

[zerostargeneral]

Genuine LOL.

Kind regards,G.