Yes, that is a nice feature but for me using Schuko plugs, turning the plug also only takes 2 seconds...Doesn’t Lukasz make a thing called “silk” with each outlet having a phase switch anyway?
Doesn’t Lukasz make a thing called “silk” with each outlet having a phase switch anyway?
Thanks Christoph for the nice thread.
Can we get a comparison between the analog setup and the Pacific DAC ?
Before I get screamed at, I just want to know. Do not turn this into an analog vs digital debate....
Which one would you say has the worse conditions in this constellation?
I see your point, but what if ventilation of the Kassandra is impaired, or its feet are not designed to carry the extra weight? Rather than allowing for unknown variables, why not equalizing conditions?
The feet of the Pacific are rather high so no ventilation problems for the Kassandra (that does not really get hot).
The Kassandra owner was part of the compare and he did not object.
M had the Kasandra for two weeks without the Pacific piggybacking it and the sound was the same.
Like Al,Hello fellow audiophiles
After I learned quite a lot on this forum from quite a lot of people, I think it is time to give something back to the forum.
I realized, that it is very hard to almost impossible to compare the top offerings from different brands because dealers rarely have competing brands in their portfolios and if they do, it is never the higher up models in the same price bracket.
Some people commented that they would love to hear the Aries Cerat Kassandra, but that it is hard to find dealers for demos, let alone for comparisons.
My dear friend M owns a wonderful system consisting of Aries Cerat Impera 2 preamp and Concero 65 Mono amps and a Lampizator SuperKomputer feeding a Golden Atlantic DAC.
M at the time was a die-hard Vinyl man at heart and felt it was time to improve his digital chain to close the gap to his Vinyl rig consisting of Brinkmann Bardo TT and DS Audio DS-W2 pickup and phono preamp system.
In his system, the two obvious contenders only could be the Aries Cerat Kassandra Reference 2 for the same aesthetics as his preamp and mono amps, as well as possible system synergy as an All-Aries Cerat chain and the Lampizator Pacific DAC as the new top model way above his trusty and beloved Golden Atlantic DAC.
M's Aries Cerat dealer and good friend was kind enough to provide M with a Kassandra for about two weeks to get accustomed with the DAC and to be able to squeeze out the best sound from it.
I was able to borrow a Pacific DAC from a very good friend of mine for this compare.
So we were in the probably unique position to compare those two top DACs even in a home situation with a (for me as well) very familiar system. How privileged we are!
I want to stress that we were very curious ourselves about this compare and that we are free from any bias.
We optimized both DACs individually for the best performance and even took notes. For example they needed opposite polarity, both in power and in speaker phase to sound their best. We also did meticulous volume level matching to ensure fair conditions for both contenders.
We chose 4 reference tracks we are all very familiar with that offer a wide variety of demands to a system.
The "we" I'm talking here are 4 very experienced listeners with very different backgrounds but sharing the same level of curiosity and love for audio and music:
M, the owner of this wonderful system and so to say the initiator and host of this event, one is the owner of the Kassandra, one is a mutual audio friend and I am the last to complete this quartet.
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We switched back and forth several times and the more we familarized us with the charcteristics of the DACs we came to the following strengths:
Kassandra:
Very robust foundation with a lot of ooomph and visceral bass, well-balanced
Pacific:
Building upon the high achievements of the Kassandra with a slightly different bass presentation, being more taut than visceral
3 of the 4 of us clearly preferred the Pacific because of the for us considerably higher transparency and resolution without any hint of being too clinical or sterile. The stage was huge, reaching far wider and deeper and higher than the room boundaries with the Pacific.
Only the Kassandra owner preferred the Kassandra over the Pacific.
This very extensive and meticulous compare resulted in M ordering a Pacific DAC with matte silver top to blend in with his existing Aries Cerat gear in his outstanding system.
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I asked Lukasz during his visit and presentation of Pacific at my place which pin should be hot at the DAC inlet and the answer was „ doesn’t matter”.Yes, that is a nice feature but for me using Schuko plugs, turning the plug also only takes 2 seconds...
If I were on a 3-prong power system, I would probably try it
As long as it is so easy to hear which polarity sounds better, I just turn the plug and in the worst case twiceI asked Lukasz during his visit and presentation of Pacific at my place which pin should be hot at the DAC inlet and the answer was „ doesn’t matter”.
Well , I select the polarity I like more using AR RTP 4EU power distributor and Siltech Ruby Mountain II PC with Oyaide P/C 004 plugs.
I see your point, but what if ventilation of the Kassandra is impaired, or its feet are not designed to carry the extra weight? Rather than allowing for unknown variables, why not equalizing conditions?
My view is this meet up was a nice idea. But I may point out that the Pacific could have optimum tube rolling already set for those speakers. They are after all the Pac owners own speakers before they moved location.
Ref with my own Kassandra, I know I can tweak the sound a lot with tube bias, and the grade of E280Fs in it. I also balanced the FR to my taste with the USB cable to suit my speaker and headphone system.
I can hear incredible transparency in my setup, if I got any more it would begin IMO to sound unnatural for my taste.
Lastly, in my own DAC demos over the years, a super level of transparency is both intoxicating and addictive. For example I was hooked a while back on the CH Precisions level of transparency. However after 4 hours of testing that DAC, the wheels began to come off. It was never going to be my end game DAC.
Quite possibly system synergy comes into a lot of this, but to my ears, the Kassandra has the right level of transparency that is bang on to my ears.
The Pac was a loaner (of a loaner) and only came in for the day to MGS. In no way was it "optimised" for those speakers. The Kass was the one there on a 2 week loan and I imagine bias setting was adjusted to suit tastes over that period of time by the owner who lent the Dac.My view is this meet up was a nice idea. But I may point out that the Pacific could have optimum tube rolling already set for those speakers. They are after all the Pac owners own speakers before they moved location.
Ref with my own Kassandra, I know I can tweak the sound a lot with tube bias, and the grade of E280Fs in it. I also balanced the FR to my taste with the USB cable to suit my speaker and headphone system.
I can hear incredible transparency in my setup, if I got any more it would begin IMO to sound unnatural for my taste.
Lastly, in my own DAC demos over the years, a super level of transparency is both intoxicating and addictive. For example I was hooked a while back on the CH Precisions level of transparency. However after 4 hours of testing that DAC, the wheels began to come off. It was never going to be my end game DAC.
Quite possibly system synergy comes into a lot of this, but to my ears, the Kassandra has the right level of transparency that is bang on to my ears.
Did you get Horning tweeters now for your Agalmes?I like to get Pacific beacuse I can get to Lampi office In 6hrs. cyprus is too for alay. I am pretty positive that I would like even Helen? or Kasandra. Oh well mabye some day
Worth considering that you appear to be similar travel time from a number of Aries Cerat dealers in Germany , Poland , Hungary etc , who could offer you an AC DAC demonstration , with perhaps the most comprehensive line up being Michael ( Klangloft Munich) and Vess ( Sofia Audio Centre) https://aries-cerat.com/distributors/I like to get Pacific beacuse I can get to Lampi office In 6hrs. cyprus is too for alay. I am pretty positive that I would like even Helen? or Kasandra. Oh well mabye some day
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