I will confirm that my M-Projects have a lot less overhang than my S5's (and I'm sure that's no surprise even though the bass on the S5's was much better than any ported speaker I've heard) but what IS surprising is that the M's are leaner than the S5's. I was worried about them overwhelming my room but it's the opposite. Now I am thinking about adding a QSub15...
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I will confirm that my M-Projects have a lot less overhang than my S5's (and I'm sure that's no surprise even though the bass on the S5's was much better than any ported speaker I've heard) but what IS surprising is that the M's are leaner than the S5's. I was worried about them overwhelming my room but it's the opposite. Now I am thinking about adding a QSub15...
I use the Qsub15 with my Q3s for now and have the Ms on order. I will give you feedback when I have both in my living room. But after initial adjustment with REW and using UMIC-1 USB microphone, the Q3s sound MUCH larger. The dynamic range and the ambient has greatly improved. I think the M-Project will benefit with the Qsub in tandem. I would like to know how 1 x Qsub18 would sound compared to 1 or 2 x Qsub15 with the M, hopefully M owners will share their experience as soon as they get their speakers and sub(s)
I use the Qsub15 with my Q3s for now and have the Ms on order. I will give you feedback when I have both in my living room. But after initial adjustment with REW and using UMIC-1 USB microphone, the Q3s sound MUCH larger. The dynamic range and the ambient has greatly improved. I think the M-Project will benefit with the Qsub in tandem. I would like to know how 1 x Qsub18 would sound compared to 1 or 2 x Qsub15 with the M, hopefully M owners will share their experience as soon as they get their speakers and sub(s)
Can someone point me to any documentation that has details on the Qsub? Can it be connected like a REL (feed from main amplifiers) or does it need a separate XLR from the preamp? Would also like to know if there's any DSP or EQ in the sub.
I love Magico but their website has nothing but images which can be incredibly frustrating at times.
Only XLR on the sub, no speaker or phono for the signal.
The EQ has has 12 PEQ (Programable EQ?). You have to use a microphone to measure your room + speakers. REW is free and easy to use, you also need a mic and a Mac/PC. After doing the frequence sweep, you have to manually adjust the PEQ, LPF (low pass filter), gain and delay.
On my pre - Krell Evo 202, I have dual output. I use Cast to my MRAs and XLR to the Qsub.
The EQ has has 12 PEQ (Programable EQ?). You have to use a microphone to measure your room + speakers. REW is free and easy to use, you also need a mic and a Mac/PC. After doing the frequence sweep, you have to manually adjust the PEQ, LPF (low pass filter), gain and delay.
On my pre - Krell Evo 202, I have dual output. I use Cast to my MRAs and XLR to the Qsub.
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Can someone point me to any documentation that has details on the Qsub? Can it be connected like a REL (feed from main amplifiers) or does it need a separate XLR from the preamp? Would also like to know if there's any DSP or EQ in the sub.
I love Magico but their website has nothing but images which can be incredibly frustrating at times.
The Qsub 18 on demo with the Q7 at CES was connected to the Soulution 701 mono XLR Out...
There's a pair on ebay for $99K:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Magico-Q7-S...de-/301244302026?_trksid=p2141725.m3641.l6393
I knew you would say that
Me neither I have patience , but dont wait to long you might cross the Mk 4 while shipping
changes are sometimes hard to get a complete read on in the short term.
many times a more accurate and more extended bass presentation will seem leaner. less ambitious speaker designs tend to trade fullness for accuracy in the name of perception of bottom octave coverage. ideally the 'M' would add authority and weight where the S5's had that 'fullness'. over time you likely will come to fully prefer the 'M's character and not feel you are missing anything.
note I've not heard the 'M' so i'm only guessing here.
an added sub should not ideally change the character of what you now hear, only extend it lower and add maybe weight to the lowest registers. it's the mid-bass where the fullness of the S5 lived, a sub will not/should not affect that.
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I called and asked jtinn what happened. he told me he could not sell the 'trade-in' Q7's and was forced to finally trade them for Wilson XLF demos with a Wilson dealer leaving Wilson for Magico. then he ended up selling the demo XLF's to another Wilson dealer for quite a bit less than the $95k.
I called and asked jtinn what happened. he told me he could not sell the 'trade-in' Q7's and was forced to finally trade them for Wilson XLF demos with a Wilson dealer leaving Wilson for Magico. then he ended up selling the XLF's to another Wilson dealer for quite a bit less than the $95k.
Wow. Someone got a nice deal on XLF's then. Tough economy I guess.
Was fortunate enough to hear the new Q7 mark II at Magico headquarters this week. As a Q-5 owner, and having heard the Q-7 many times in the past, i was totally not expecting what i heard. It was so above and beyond what i've heard from any speaker that i was just floored. I didn't believe a tweeter and new midrange/crossover could make such a difference, but it was transformative. Unlike any Magico or anything else I've ever heard. #BlownAway
Fascinating...thanks for the feedback. Were you able to compare the original to the new Q7s by any chance? Have you heard music in this system before? Just trying to gauge if you think it was the new Q7s or perhaps the room as well? Most interested!
Never got an exact a/b, but i've heard the Q7 in this room before a few months prior. And i've heard the Q7 many times on my friend's system with Constellation. I also heard this room a couple of months ago with the M project. And in that i have a soulution 711 at home with the Q-5, i can assure you, sometimes magic happens. Something happened with this Q7 mark II that might just be pure luck. But it was VASTLY better than anything i've heard. An no, i was not on any drug induced materials. Just some good espresso.
That's what i wanted to know...sounds like you've heard that room before, heard the Q7s before, heard the M in that room before...so a good feel, and you were beguiled. Fantastic...now, the ultimate question...are you getting a pair?
Thanks for the feedback...very interesting.
That's what i wanted to know...sounds like you've heard that room before, heard the Q7s before, heard the M in that room before...so a good feel, and you were beguiled. Fantastic...now, the ultimate question...are you getting a pair?
i'd get a pair if the size of my room allowed. i've either got an M project or whatever these guys cook up down the road that has the same tweeter/midrange as the Q7 in a smaller package. my dream scenario would be a q-5 mark II. perfect size for my room.
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