Best Dedicated Listening Room You've Ever Heard?

[JackD201]

Has anyone thought about doing the floor like the ceiling. With scattering built in. No high heals allowed.

I've seen it done. I think floor bounce is surely an issue typically in the 150Hz range or so but many designers of loudspeakers do take this into account. Fixes have something to do with woofer spacing and alignment as a couple of speaker designers have told me.

Ultimately though it is just too much work to dig into a floor. For those that have serious problems, there are floor products out there that look like stage wedge monitors. Not pretty but should address the issue along with providing an OCD fix.

 

[Mike Lavigne]

Has anyone thought about doing the floor like the ceiling. With scattering built in. No high heals allowed.

think concert hall.

stage = floor under the speakers
audience = carpet and chairs.

home hifi speakers are not designed with a diffusive floor in mind.
and music is not listened to, recorded, or mastered that way.

not that it might not have value. but other than treating first reflections with something (carpet?) and have some degree of reflective balance in the room somewhere, there are no rules.

 

[BlueFox]

My living room late at night.

 

[howiebrou]

Musikverein in Vienna. Does that count?

 

[marty]

This is mine, totally designed and made by RPG Europe.

Burmester Reference Line set-up with a Reference Listening Acoustic Hall designed/made by RPG Europe.

List of components:

- Adyton Isovolt K6

- Burmester 948 Power conditioner

- Nordost Qkore 6 with Qkore Wires

- Burmester 911 Mk3 monos power amps

- Burmester 808 Mk5 with Power Supply Unit

- Burmester 069 with Power Supply Unit

- Burmester B100

- Cables: Nordost

- Nordost Sort Lift

- Nordost Qrt line ground wire (dedicated and designated ground for the sound system to a designated external ground rod with very low resistance path).

- N.5 direct power lines with Furutech dps 4.1 limited edition from electric meter to wall sockets.

- Furutech NCF wall sockets (N.2 sets of FT-SWS-D NCF (R); N.3 sets of FT-SWS-R NCF).

- Taoc Audio Rack CSR 2S (D)

- Taoc SCB-RS-HC50G

- Taoc Super Insulator Tite-35s

- Bassocontinuo Accordeon

- The lighting system (after appropriate lighting study) of the room was entrusted to the very elegant products of Kreon and Flos.

- Acoustic design and made by RPG Europe.


Building of the Room - Specs

The building and realization of this acoustically extreme project has been designed/made at all by RPG Europe in about a year (exactly 13 months). Such room, completely made from "zero" (it means walls, ceiling and floor have been re-builded applying on place the most extreme acoustic concepts) has the same building-in concept and philosophy of a Concert Hall with right dimensions/proportions. Pratically is a room (composed by a reference acoustic Insulation) inside another room (RPG custom acoustic treatment) with a net size of about 34.6 sq meters and a net height from floor to ceiling of 295 cm. Of course the room size, before acoustic steps was a little phisically bigger but now (with the rich acoustic treatment on place) its behaviour is virtually with more spacious (all walls seems to be disappeared leaving music to flow at fullest) and right for a superb/correct music reproduction. Infact the acoustic measurements stating the absolute perfetct match of neutrality and very linear in its performance.

Rocco, congratulations on a very nice looking room.. Is it an illusion or perhaps my misinterpretation, but does one speaker (R) appear much further into the room than the other?

 

[andromedaaudio]

Here is the article I referenced in my post about the Ma room. You can see the great effort that went into the design and construction, including the dimensions. It was purpose built, adjacent to his home. Larry

https://positive-feedback.com/Issue3/maroom.htm

Thanks .

Yes it has a 10 degrees sloping ceiling , so none of the ceiling first reflections will reach the listener without being considerably delayed, for the rest it looks pretty lively , thats how i wanna built a room , first use room shape to delay reflections
By the way gorgious Tube research amps.

 

[Rocco I.]

[QUOTE = "marty, post: 650345, membro: 11"] Rocco, congratulazioni per una stanza molto carina ... È un'illusione o forse una mia interpretazione errata, ma un oratore (R) appare molto più lontano nella stanza rispetto all'altro? [/ QUOTE]

H, thanks for your comment. It is simply a photo perspective

 

[HughP3]

great looking room and system, congrats!

 

[Bruce B]

Although there are some references about Isis in the Winston Ma room, I only saw pictures of the Avalon Eidolon and Sentinel. Curiously the Sentinel are shown close to amplifiers I am hosting, the Marantz Project T1! https://positive-feedback.com/Issue3/maroom2.htm

Both are great speakers, I have listened to them playing really good, but need adequate power.

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I mastered several of his albums in this room. The Sentinels were used and I would sit behind him making adjustments to his liking. I mastered a total of 23 titles for Winston. I really do miss him.... RIP.....

 

[microstrip]

I mastered several of his albums in this room. The Sentinels were used and I would sit behind him making adjustments to his liking. I mastered a total of 23 titles for Winston. I really do miss him.... RIP.....

Nice to remember - do you still remember what was the system behind them?

 

[microstrip]

This is mine, totally designed and made by RPG Europe.

Burmester Reference Line set-up with a Reference Listening Acoustic Hall designed/made by RPG Europe.

List of components:

- Adyton Isovolt K6

- Burmester 948 Power conditioner

- Nordost Qkore 6 with Qkore Wires

- Burmester 911 Mk3 monos power amps

- Burmester 808 Mk5 with Power Supply Unit

- Burmester 069 with Power Supply Unit

- Burmester B100

- Cables: Nordost

- Nordost Sort Lift

- Nordost Qrt line ground wire (dedicated and designated ground for the sound system to a designated external ground rod with very low resistance path).

- N.5 direct power lines with Furutech dps 4.1 limited edition from electric meter to wall sockets.

- Furutech NCF wall sockets (N.2 sets of FT-SWS-D NCF (R); N.3 sets of FT-SWS-R NCF).

- Taoc Audio Rack CSR 2S (D)

- Taoc SCB-RS-HC50G

- Taoc Super Insulator Tite-35s

- Bassocontinuo Accordeon

- The lighting system (after appropriate lighting study) of the room was entrusted to the very elegant products of Kreon and Flos.

- Acoustic design and made by RPG Europe.


Building of the Room - Specs

The building and realization of this acoustically extreme project has been designed/made at all by RPG Europe in about a year (exactly 13 months). Such room, completely made from "zero" (it means walls, ceiling and floor have been re-builded applying on place the most extreme acoustic concepts) has the same building-in concept and philosophy of a Concert Hall with right dimensions/proportions. Pratically is a room (composed by a reference acoustic Insulation) inside another room (RPG custom acoustic treatment) with a net size of about 34.6 sq meters and a net height from floor to ceiling of 295 cm. Of course the room size, before acoustic steps was a little phisically bigger but now (with the rich acoustic treatment on place) its behaviour is virtually with more spacious (all walls seems to be disappeared leaving music to flow at fullest) and right for a superb/correct music reproduction. Infact the acoustic measurements stating the absolute perfetct match of neutrality and very linear in its performance.

Great to see such well designed room in Europe. I see QRDs and Abffusors, what kind of treatment is used in the corners?

BTW, what is the exact width of the room?

 

[Rocco I.]

Great to see such well designed room in Europe. I see QRDs and Abffusors, what kind of treatment is used in the corners?

BTW, what is the exact width of the room?

- In the corner (front wall) have been used the "RPG Flutter Free " in custom acoustical data & finish.

- In the corner (rear wall) have been used the "RPG Modex Modules " in custom acoustical data & finish.

All the RPG acoustic elements are in custom acoustical data & finish.

exact width of the room is: 6.07m
exact lenght of the room is: 5.71 m
exact height of the room is : 2.95 m

Behind the treatment, there is a specific / superb realization in terms of soundproofing (done specifically in association with the acoustic treatment), typical of a concert hall, but with more advanced technology. The soundproofing and acoustic treatment
are made to be mutually complementary. A whole, properly and structurally isolated, to give together in unison a propagation and homogeneous distribution of musical energy, dramatically natural into room.

According RPG Europe, but not limited to Europe only, in their decades of worldwide experience/knowledge in this field, they state such room as one of the absolute best listening hall ever made for a lot of reasons (highest quality of materials used, overall acoustic response and reference listening sound quality).

Cheers.

 

[Rocco I.]

Has anyone thought about doing the floor like the ceiling. With scattering built in. No high heals allowed.

The floor in my room is a totally floating acoustic structure with several thick layers (total thickness is 5.4 cm) of harmonious birch wood and natural oak. Each layer is completely isolated from the other with the use of a specific acoustic damping compound designed for use between 2 sheets. Such acoustic complex structure floats on different acoustic suspenders (from floor foundations) and each specific area has its own calculated resonance frequency.
Such realization has been made applying on place the most extreme acoustic concepts. The contribution and the result in terms of sound is breathtaking.

 

[Bruce B]

Nice to remember - do you still remember what was the system behind them?

It was changing..... There were Berning-Z amps at one time, then some custom modded Exemplar amps by John Tucker and some huge amps that escape me at the moment.....

 

[stehno]

There are many beautiful meticulously-designed listening rooms. Since the OP asks what is the best dedicated listening room you've heard, beauty aside, I'm curious how some of you think a superior listening room benefits?

Is a superior-designed room an essential requirement for best sound?

Should a superior-designed room add most or least to the playback presentation?

Many espouse that "the room" is the most important component of any given playback system. Does that remain true today?

Maybe a better question is, if I lack a superior designed room (and I do) what am I missing that cannot be regained by other means?

 

[microstrip]

- In the corner (front wall) have been used the "RPG Flutter Free " in custom acoustical data & finish.

- In the corner (rear wall) have been used the "RPG Modex Modules " in custom acoustical data & finish.

All the RPG acoustic elements are in custom acoustical data & finish.

exact width of the room is: 6.07m
exact lenght of the room is: 5.71 m
exact height of the room is : 2.95 m
(...)

Surprising room dimensions - almost a square and height is half of the side. If it was not for my beliefs in RPG acoustic treatments and your report I would risk that it was a problematic room...

These dimensions support F. Toole argument that preferred audiophile ratios for room dimensions are mostly a myth.

 

[musicfirst1]

Musikverein in Vienna. Does that count?View attachment 65399

Yep, counts for sure. Incredible acoustics. Spent 300 Euros to see the VSO there. I think the late Dave Wilson was a fan of this venue as well.

 

[Mike Lavigne]

It was changing..... There were Berning-Z amps at one time, then some custom modded Exemplar amps by John Tucker and some huge amps that escape me at the moment.....

Tube Research Golden 800's. Paul Weitzel's masterpieces.

for years Paul and Winston would go round and round about the finer points of how these monsters were performing. Paul (RIP) did his best to satisfy Winston.

 

[Mike Lavigne]

There are many beautiful meticulously-designed listening rooms. Since the OP asks what is the best dedicated listening room you've heard, beauty aside, I'm curious how some of you think a superior listening room benefits?

Is a superior-designed room an essential requirement for best sound?

Should a superior-designed room add most or least to the playback presentation?

Many espouse that "the room" is the most important component of any given playback system. Does that remain true today?

Maybe a better question is, if I lack a superior designed room (and I do) what am I missing that cannot be regained by other means?

i believe that there is a wide variance of room designs that are not limiting. and a perfect room is not only not essential.....it does not exist.

you need the 4 main ingredients of (1) a good, well shaped room (no huge unsolvable issues), and (2) well matched room size to your speakers and their driver type.

after that it's (3) a great concept of a solid reference sound to pursue, and (4) unlimited pure effort at fine tuning, and maybe a 5th attribute, an open mind.

many different versions of attaining music reproduction nirvana. since all 4 of those things can vary.

 

[howiebrou]

Yep, counts for sure. Incredible acoustics. Spent 300 Euros to see the VSO there. I think the late Dave Wilson was a fan of this venue as well.

Was there only once but luckily it was Gustavo Dudamel and the LA Symphony. A night to remember.