Magicos at Munich Hi-end Show 2019

CKKeung

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Magico loudspeakers are in several rooms in Munich Hi-end 2019.

WBF members who have visites the Show please share your comments her.
Thanks a lot!

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nice to see the world premier of the new MSB mono blocks in that first picture. same system with different amps was at Axpona.

love to hear any comments about that (understanding that it's hard to isolate amplifier performance in a show).
 

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TLi spent one day at the Show.
He is having a family trip in Milan but decided to go there for 1 day despite of the tiring car journey.

He said that the M2 in both of the two rooms performed excellently.

Here is another room of M2 :
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For the Magico M6, TLi also prefers the room with Soulution amps (the 3rd photo on #1).

He said that the sound was more dynamical.

I am wondering : should the system of MSB M500 (the 1st photo) be added a preamp?
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Best sound out of a Magico is the TotalDAC room at Hifi Deluxe. I found the ones at MOC pretty dull.
 

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Best sound out of a Magico is the TotalDAC room at Hifi Deluxe. I found the ones at MOC pretty dull.
I have a frd visiting the HiFi Deluxe site.
I'm waiting for his report.
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I have a frd visiting the HiFi Deluxe site.
I'm waiting for his report.
:cool:
It's a terrible room - v small and awkward shapes. Taking that into account, Vincent has done an amazing job to get even a half-decent sound out of it! Let's hope he gets a better room next year or back to MOC.
 

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It's a terrible room - v small and awkward shapes. Taking that into account, Vincent has done an amazing job to get even a half-decent sound out of it! Let's hope he gets a better room next year or back to MOC.
I actually intended to drive to Marriott Hotel after Hiend Show, but the traffic was so bad, it took me 10 minutes just to get out of the garage. MOC is in an industrial area and at 5:00pm everyone is driving out of it. The queue was so long that put me off. I decided to turn around to go back to the hotel. Traffic in Munich was terrible during rush hour.

Having said that, I listened to two pairs of M6 and two pairs of M2. I find M6 driven by Soulution was the best sound in the Show. It was powerful, dynamic and detailed. The M6 driven by MSB system was nice too but not as dynamic as Soulution. MSB did not use a pre-amp maybe why the sound was too soft.

In Magico room, M2 was driven by Soulution 5 series amp, the sound was very nice. M2 is smaller than M3, but I think it has a bigger sound than M3. In another room, M2 was driven by Constellation Inspiration 1.0 amp with Nordost Odin 2 speaker cable, the sound was even better, more refined.

I find M2 is one of the best, if not the best, speaker in its size. It really projects a sonic picture that only large speaker can do without losing its resolution and temperament.
 

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TLi,

I tried to catch the shuttle van provided by Hifi Deluxe, but the traffic was so bad that even the driver recommended I take the train, and that's what I did. In 20 mins (including a short walk) I was at the Marriott. Piece of cake.
I had a car last year, and it was a nightmare to get to/from the MOC, so it's best to take the train anyways.
 

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I actually intended to drive to Marriott Hotel after Hiend Show, but the traffic was so bad, it took me 10 minutes just to get out of the garage. MOC is in an industrial area and at 5:00pm everyone is driving out of it. The queue was so long that put me off. I decided to turn around to go back to the hotel. Traffic in Munich was terrible during rush hour.

Having said that, I listened to two pairs of M6 and two pairs of M2. I find M6 driven by Soulution was the best sound in the Show. It was powerful, dynamic and detailed. The M6 driven by MSB system was nice too but not as dynamic as Soulution. MSB did not use a pre-amp maybe why the sound was too soft.

In Magico room, M2 was driven by Soulution 5 series amp, the sound was very nice. M2 is smaller than M3, but I think it has a bigger sound than M3. In another room, M2 was driven by Constellation Inspiration 1.0 amp with Nordost Odin 2 speaker cable, the sound was even better, more refined.

I find M2 is one of the best, if not the best, speaker in its size. It really projects a sonic picture that only large speaker can do without losing its resolution and temperament.
Very nice feedback. How would you stack the M2 v M3 in the dynamics and bass categories? How would you compare it to S7 or S5?
 
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Very nice feedback. How would you stack the M2 v M3 in the dynamics and bass categories?
I would compare M2 with M3 as M6 with M Project. They were from the same designer, same factory and similar drive units.

The main difference is the cabinet. M6 and M2 are carbon fiber monocoque, while M Project and M3 are more traditional aluminum cabinet. Carbon fiber gives a warmer sound and less contamination, ie less of a cabinet sound. The result is high resolution and better dynamic. The difference is not subtle.
 

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TLi thanks for your earlier f'back on the M6's. I'd be interested to hear from any other members who attended MHE & Hifi Deluxe what you thought of the rooms with Magico M6's?
 
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Personally, I liked the MSB Select / Soulution / M2 room better than Constellation / M2. The later sounded too soft and dull to my ears. Same for the full MSB system with the M6. Way too relaxed.

The M6 driven by all Soulution system (in the Soulution room) sounded much more dynamic and alive. I wish they used the MSB Select II DAC to see what the M6 can really do ...
 

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Best sound out of a Magico is the TotalDAC room at Hifi Deluxe. I found the ones at MOC pretty dull.

Perfectly agree... I spent a lot of time in each stand with MAGIGO speakers at the MOC and I did not understand the intentions, neither of MSB, nor of Soulution with the M6, preferring the sound presentation of the M2 in the 2 rooms where they played (Magico & Constellation)

But for me, personally, the best exploitation of Magico speakers (M6) was, by far, at TOTALDAC full system, source and amp,
just alive, incarnate and eloquent.
 

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Personally, I liked the MSB Select / Soulution / M2 room better than Constellation / M2. The later sounded too soft and dull to my ears. Same for the full MSB system with the M6. Way too relaxed.

The M6 driven by all Soulution system (in the Soulution room) sounded much more dynamic and alive. I wish they used the MSB Select II DAC to see what the M6 can really do ...
Thanks for your f'back Adam. I also like the synergy between Soulution 7 series amps & Magico, though i'll be interested to see how the new Vitus SIA-030 pairs with the M series speakers. On the digital side, I like the APL Hifi Master Reference series transport/dac which are cut from a similar cloth as the MSB Select II.
 
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Perfectly agree... I spent a lot of time in each stand with MAGIGO speakers at the MOC and I did not understand the intentions, neither of MSB, nor of Soulution with the M6, preferring the sound presentation of the M2 in the 2 rooms where they played (Magico & Constellation)

But for me, personally, the best exploitation of Magico speakers (M6) was, by far, at TOTALDAC full system, source and amp,
just alive, incarnate and eloquent.
The M6's ideally need a large room to breath. The room treatments (incl: SMT diffusers) in the Total Dac room no doubt improved the sound. You're only as strong as your weakest link as they say.
 

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I find M2 is one of the best, if not the best, speaker in its size. It really projects a sonic picture that only large speaker can do without losing its resolution and temperament.
TLi, obviously you preferred the M6/Soulution room of all the Magico speakers at the show. Though purely as loudspeakers, how close does the M2 get to the M6 in your opinion? Cost no object, which would you rather take home?
 
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Personally, I liked the MSB Select / Soulution / M2 room better than Constellation / M2. The later sounded too soft and dull to my ears. Same for the full MSB system with the M6. Way too relaxed.

The M6 driven by all Soulution system (in the Soulution room) sounded much more dynamic and alive. I wish they used the MSB Select II DAC to see what the M6 can really do ...

Adam, any comments (yet) on how M2s compare with M3s?
 

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The M6's ideally need a large room to breath. The room treatments (incl: SMT diffusers) in the Total Dac room no doubt improved the sound. You're only as strong as your weakest link as they say.

Yes it is certain ! but this room was also much less suitable for the MAGICO than those of the MOC, besides these M6 play even better at the TOTALDAC Headquaters (testimonys I had).

Noticed, It was for me the first time I listened to these incredible speakers and the new TOTALDAC Amp1... nice experience !
 

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Yes it is certain ! but this room was also much less suitable for the MAGICO than those of the MOC, besides these M6 play even better at the TOTALDAC Headquaters (testimonys I had).

Noticed, It was for me the first time I listened to these incredible speakers and the new TOTALDAC Amp1... nice experience !
I think that shows what a really good front end does to bring out the best in SOTA speakers like the M6. The latest Total Dac by all reports is probably in the top 5 or 6 dacs in the world. And as you eluded to, with more breathing room and careful attention to room acoustics, the M6's are capable of glorious sound.
 

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