Oldies but Goldies McIntosh C 22 CE and MC 275 CE

McDee275

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I am using these" old pieces of iron" and they keep me happy from the 1st day of their purchase...

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....playing the soul of the music
 
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I owned both of these in their original versions when they were still somewhat current. For someone like me a big part of the value is in the intrinsic charm.
 
I had to check my translator for "intrinsic".:)

Okay, learned a new word. :D Never to old for this

Found out, especially for the pre-amp, that as better the tubes are, as better the sound is.

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Excellent tubes for the phono section.
 
My dad had a original MC275 & C22 from 1964. Also a McIntosh MR67 tube tuner, Garrad 301 turntable, and Klipsch Cornwall speakers.

In 2006 I decided to redo my audio setup with 2 separate systems: tubes for digital & solid state for analog.

While at the MAC dealership I had auditioned a few MAC amps, one was a 275 in both stereo and 2 mono. The 275 hadn't changed its sound over the decades at that time of audition. The 275 still had not much bass whether single stand alone stereo mode or 2 mono running as stereo.
The sonic attributes of the 275 still present with excellent mids and treble.
After auditioning the MC2102 it became apparent the the 2102 had the same mids and treble as the 275 but had a good deep bass response as well.

Some people like their 275 paired, as well as for the 2102. I found no sonic advantage in doing so for myself so I chose the 2102 for my digital playback system & a McIntosh MA6500 for analog.

My final assessment of the amps regarding the 275/2102 is that they are excellent basic amplifiers in a tube design. Careful attention to speaker choice is necessary in order to maximize the potential benefits of their sonic attributes.

Same principal regarding the MA6500 integrated amp. I didn't like the MAC preamps too much but the C22 is the exception because of its phono section which is pretty good but not excellent.

In the end I chose a CJ preamp for my 2102 after auditioning various preamps for about 4 years.
A excellent basic amp needs a excellent basic preamp. Before the CJ preamp I was running my McIntosh MCD500 directly into the 2102. I wanted a FM tuner so I needed a preamp.

Sorry for the rant but your initial photo of the 275/C22 brought back many memories of growing up.

Just my opinions.
 
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It:s totally ok for me if some of your memories came back looking at the photos of my Mcs.
Thank you very much for your opinion regarding the performance of the MC275. I know also of their sonic shortcomings in some parts but imhO, nothing is perfect and I love my vintage sound a lot. Therefore totally ok for me.
And you are right when it comes to chose the loudspeakers for the MC275 very carefully so they can develop their full potential.
Luckily I found here in Germany a fantastic, matching speaker for my amp.

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They sound also pretty good.

Manufacturer is a small German company named Dynamikks Soundcraftsmen

Here the link ---> https://dynamikks.de/

The speakers, named Model12, are a good match with tube amps like my MC275 CE and I am absolutely satisfied the way they sound.
Good with classical music, better with Blues & Jazz.

and...

a few days ago, I switched from GE 6550 power tubes to TAD KT88 STR REDBASE and found out the KT88 sound better as the NOS from GE. Surprise, surprise.

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