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    Cry for help with tube placement Ray Lumley M100

    I wonder, might anyone have a copy of the schematics for the Ray Lumley M100 mono tube amps???
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    Cry for help with tube placement Ray Lumley M100

    Thank's all, for your help and comments. So, the answer on tube placement , for anyone else that may need to know is, the tube closest to the input jack is the 12AX7 input tube. The tube to the right is the 12AU7 is the driver . That was confirmed by Chris Johnson, all around nice guy, parts...
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    Cry for help with tube placement Ray Lumley M100

    Gotta luv those Lumley Mono's. So...... I uploaded my birds eye view. I don't think I can trace or see wires to sockets and the signal path . Any ideas?
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    Cry for help with tube placement Ray Lumley M100

    Wow, thanks so much for your super quick answer Stephan, I really appreciate it. :)
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    Cry for help with tube placement Ray Lumley M100

    So this is a pretty niche question. I am replacing all the tubes in my Lumley M100's . My question is , into what sockets does the 12AX7 and 12AU7 go? I thought it would be easy, just follow what was in my amps already. So, from a birds eye view looking down, the one on the left side was a...
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    Calling on OWNERS of Upgraded Apogees & Sanders 10e Electrostatics

    So true that is. I do need time and concentration to trust my own ears. Time to purge the snake oil, pseudo science , ad supported fake reviews and all the static from the forum jungles.
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    Calling on OWNERS of Upgraded Apogees & Sanders 10e Electrostatics

    Interesting about the Scintillas. And not the first time I have heard that from people who have had their Apogees upgraded. Perhaps there is wisdom in the old "if it ain't broke don't fix it" saying. I am leaning towards running my Divas until they need surgery. Would be very nice to hear an...
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    Calling on OWNERS of Upgraded Apogees & Sanders 10e Electrostatics

    Sorry you had bad luck with shipping. Happy to hear you are satisfied with you DUs. I am still on the fence as to whether to upgrade my Divas. They have survived amazingly well. No panel buzz as of yet. Mid ribbon a bit limp but I don't seem to hear any issues. I have heard mixed opinion...
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    Love Is Always Better the Second Time Around: The Sanders Sound Systems 10e Hybrid Electrostatic Speaker

    Hey Tom, did you notice any degradation in the sound of the 10e's when you started to play around with the dbx settings beyond the as delivered setting for the cross over point?
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    Calling on OWNERS of Upgraded Apogees & Sanders 10e Electrostatics

    Hey Soothsayer, I am just checking in to see how your TSW Scintillas turned out?
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    Calling on OWNERS of Upgraded Apogees & Sanders 10e Electrostatics

    The Sanders 10e Hybrid bottom end is quite unlike all other hybrids as is it's sonic performance. I have a pair of SoundLAB Dynastats. The crossover point to the traditional woofer in a box is noticeable, not enough for me to make the speaker undesirable , but noticeable. But, the Sanders10e...
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    Calling on OWNERS of Upgraded Apogees & Sanders 10e Electrostatics

    Hey Soothsayer , better late to the party than not showing up at all :) Thanks for your post. Once I became a panel guy, I have found it hard to stay away from them. Oh, yes I have tried to keep an open ear. I have tried in house Omnis ( Duevel Bella Luna's ) , "state of the art " Kii Three's...
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    OCD Hi-Fi Guy

    Yes, he is quite the character and doesn't mind spending high 5 digit sums on the right gear. He also doesn't hold back on calling out snake oil or "HEAR tm " when he sees it. What is "HEAR" , well, I just made it up. " High End Audio Robbery " If you think he is entertaining, check out...
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    Calling on OWNERS of Upgraded Apogees & Sanders 10e Electrostatics

    Thank you for your post Tom, and the link. Much appreciated. Replies to my original question regarding Apogee and Sanders are pretty much all in at this point. The end result for now is I will leave my Apogee Divas where they are for now where they will do double duty for 2 channel listening...
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    Calling on OWNERS of Upgraded Apogees & Sanders 10e Electrostatics

    Hello DY and Hppy New Year. I apologize for my delay in responding . I only just now noticed your post. I guess your neighbours are very lucky people , at least when your window is open because they get that sweet Sanders sound for free !! Thanks so much for your observations on the 10E...
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    Calling on OWNERS of Upgraded Apogees & Sanders 10e Electrostatics

    Thanks so much for your meticulous and precisely descriptive reply. I had thought this thread was dead and was pleasantly surprised to read your observations . I was wondering about the ability of the cone woofer to keep up with and match the ES panel , so thanks for mentioning that . Every...
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    Calling on OWNERS of Upgraded Apogees & Sanders 10e Electrostatics

    Ahh, the triangular seating formation. Great for people who do not all get along and share the same views on audio. If I am on the jury , it is still out on the issue of narrow beaming. Is a narrow beaming design equivalent to being narrow minded, you know the old expression , being so narrow...
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    Calling on OWNERS of Upgraded Apogees & Sanders 10e Electrostatics

    Thank you for sharing your experience. I haven't yet heard the Sanders 10e or its predecessors. But , I did have the Apogee Duetta , which I loved and only sold because I moved to Apogee Divas with passive crossovers and then acquired the DAX. I heard Apogee Scintilla's once driven by Ray...
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    Calling on OWNERS of Upgraded Apogees & Sanders 10e Electrostatics

    So, it really is that bad. Thank you for your observations. Sanders does offer a 30 day no risk at home trial but I did not want to go through that process if the sweet spot was really that small. In my case, the speakers will also have to function as front left and right in a home theatre so...
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    Calling on OWNERS of Upgraded Apogees & Sanders 10e Electrostatics

    Yes, thank you for the reminder, the one person sweet spot observation has been made by a number of listeners. May I ask, have you spent a significant amount of time listening to the Sanders 10e? I would appreciate it greatly if you could share more detail as to what you hear when stepping...
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    Calling on OWNERS of Upgraded Apogees & Sanders 10e Electrostatics

    Thank you for those observations L. I've never heard the Sanders 10e /Magtech pairing . There is an interesting divergence in sweet spot sound stage observation findings regarding the Sanders. One the one side , the observation is very narrow , "head in a vice" sweet spot, not sweet spot ...
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    Calling on OWNERS of Upgraded Apogees & Sanders 10e Electrostatics

    Or users who have had a chance audition both. Admittedly, not many have likely had the opportunity do do so. You know the old expression though.........if you don't ask........ :)
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    Calling on OWNERS of Upgraded Apogees & Sanders 10e Electrostatics

    LOL, I guess I picked one of the smallest group of listeners in all of audio to ask this question :) Perhaps Apogee and Sanders 10e owners are just so happy with their speakers that they are not on the forums. Stay safe everyone.
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    Calling on OWNERS of Upgraded Apogees & Sanders 10e Electrostatics

    This call goes out to what is likely a very small group. What is the likelihood that someone has owned BOTH an upgraded Apogee and a Sanders 10e and can give the rest of us an honest analysis and comparison of both the Apogee's and the Sander's 10e. What differences did you hear in...
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    My New True Soundworks Apogee Diva Extremes

    Oh, my mistake, I just saw LMAD's response, for which I thank him. But, alas, my core questions went unanswered. :)
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    My New True Soundworks Apogee Diva Extremes

    I guess Mr. Let's Make a Deal has stopped doing business :)
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    My New True Soundworks Apogee Diva Extremes

    Thank you Dr. :)
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    My New True Soundworks Apogee Diva Extremes

    So Let’s Make a Deal , if you see this I’m curious about a few things. Wondering why if you already had Diva Ultimates , what made you go Extreme ? Except for the new mid range ribbon , weren’t the woofer panels and tweeters the same as your Ultimates ? Was all the Extreme magic in the new...
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    My New True Soundworks Apogee Diva Extremes

    Hey Red Alert , did you ever go ahead with the upgrade to your Diva's ?

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