If it is done right, digital presents a level of access and efficiency which is hard to beat. I miss smoking a joint with friends but prefer the ease and healthier attributes of gummies if you know what I mean...LOL
For me, it is fatiguing granularity, particularly noticeable in the decay of symbols on otherwise well recorded tracks. Also muddy low end, particularly when listening to well recorded studio Jazz, listen to the picking of the stand up bass.
Another place I notice it is on noisy chaotic...
I don't. I've moved completely to a digital library, augmented with HD streaming. My ML obviously has the phono stage, but I've never used it.
The biggest challenges Ive encountered was layering the networking elements to achieve the musicality I was looking for, while not shading the music...
Yea, I'm essentially done now. I have a ML 585.5, that I'm quite happy with. I paired it with a Antipodes K50, Innous PheonixNet,, and Devore Gibbon X, and Black cat Graceline L3's. It's a very musical system, with what seems to my ear a very wide frequency response. Precise but not glaring...
So I've just acquired a PhoenixNET (PN) and did some initial testing tonight with my system. A few things jump out at me right away.
A. Adding the PN to my system adds a lot of latency to the user experience, particularly with Roon. The delay from selecting something on a mobile device to...
Realize this is an older thread, I'd like to revisit it. I am revamping my sound system and am looking to optimize the network elements of the solution. I have some questions related to this thread.
I've spent months now reading various articles, forums and other materials discussing the...
If it has I'd love to see the data, might change my thinking... Anyhow, I think this has been beaten to death. I'm still trying to figure out which switch to buy, is there a consensus opinion yet on best value switch? Also looking at the Ediscreation in addition to the two switches mentioned...
I know the guy's at Sonos very well, worked with them for a number of years. Their solution to "whole home audio" very much centered on the problems we've been discussing. Much of today's mesh networking technology was originally ideated in the Sonos laboratories.
Problem is IP networking...
Spot on!
While not specifically designed for this use case, this methodology is the standard for objectively measuring the effects I've been discussing. It might provide a foundation for improving the existing solutions.
If you have trouble sleeping at night, this will solve the...
Not saying "Bad", suggesting what you are hearing (relative) to the original source material, is different due to the dynamic effects of codifying and transporting through the network, along with any introduced degradations in that process.
If you run with this thought process (which I...
:( I'm not attacking anything or anyone. I'm simply questioning the logic of daisy chaining switches, including but not specifically different manufacturers switches. If that is perceived as me "attacking" I apologize that is not my intention.
If these switches were designed and tested by the...
One more quick post to wrap all this up, as I've gotten way off the topic here (sorry).
As I understand it, neutrality is the holy grail for audiophiles. Digital audio (conversion, compression, transport, transcoding etc etc.) is imperfect. What you hear, will never be the same, when...
This would make sense. By improving clock, and flow of power, you are enhancing the traffic shaping capabilities of the device. It can reorder and better prioritize traffic, without have extraneous traffic (data/processes) to analyze.
You wouldn't hear packet loss unless it was catastrophic...
LOL, sorry you don't like my nick. I've had it for years, and have been told it's fitting.
Hope you understand that I'm not suggesting improvement (from a user perceptual standpoint) isn't occurring.
Simply pointing out that error correction is NOT happening at the switch level (unless...
Buffering is simply memory. Storing packets in a memory to assist with various functions. Buffering in voice/video networks is generally used to increase resolution.
ie: Zoom does very little buffering because latency is more important then video resolution (I need to hear and to lesser...
By the way, what I am suggesting, doesn't necessarily refute this statement. It is important to understand I'm not suggesting that users perceptual experience of improved sound isn't occurring. This may in fact be absolutely true. Just not for the reasons you are stating.
It is entirely...
Yes exactly
Not true. Decoding (headers) + prioritizing (reordering and adding priority information into the packet header) + re-transmitting + (filtering electronic noise on the phy layer) however many times this is happening is by definition introducing Jitter (latency & packet loss). You...
Lets start with one truism. There is packet loss in EVERY network.
You are correct in your statement. Audiophile switches (as I understand them) are also doing traffic shaping (prioritizing audio traffic), isolating noise (emf) artifacts that are present on the physical layer, probably some...
Maybe, maybe not. While I'm not an audio expert, I spent many years in the IP communications networking space. I'm fairly certain that daisy chaining switches is introducing some form of degredation to the signal, which would logically be packet loss. And, whatever/wherever the first transcoding...
Interesting. Aren't you concerned about packet loss or jitter with all the switching going on? While minimal, I would think that there is room for degradation of data if the switches can't keep up with the data flow.
I've some questions related to the topic of this thread so I thought I would chime in. If this is off topic happy to create a new topic.
I'm also exploring a new digital music server/player. Currently have an SMS-200 (roon player), drawing from a NUC based (roon core). Overall, I've found...
Out of curiosity, what is the point of inserting the eRegen in the chain here, if you are going to use the PhoenixNET? Isn't this redundant? Sorry if this is a stupid question, considering a very similar set up.
Server MUST be best in class, dealing with vagaries of networking (noise, latency etc).
Support both local and network streamed audio. One box solution is ideal.
Sever should be capable of dynamics and transient speed - music must come to life, with little sonic signature (as neutral as...
Yea running on Roon isn't my first choice. Realize this is an Antipodes thread, but I'm trying to nail down that "short list" for demoing. What would make the short list folks?
PCM sample rates/bit depth: 32, 44.1, 48, 88.2, 96, 176.4, or 192kHz; up to 32 bits
DSD: Native or DoP (DSD over PCM), single- and double-speed (2.8 and 5.6MHz)
The interesting thing about the Grimm is the down sampling logic for improved SQ. Want to hear it, to see if it lives up to hype...
Guy's, thanks for all the good information. I've narrowed down my search to a couple devices. I'm going to start reaching out to dealers to demo a few devices. Right now, I'm planning to test the K50 and the Grimm MU1. Anyone have any thoughts on any other devices that should be demo'd?
My...
"Antipodes may have been at it longer than these others, so I think there’s a very good chance this will be my endgame brand."
May I ask why? What is it about the product you have that does it for you? What are the most critical elements you look for that Antipodes delivers?
Thanks
This is...