All the noise and none of the music

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And as I thought we have seen it all, here comes one of the dumbest things yet in high end audio - sweetvinyl - and apparently Fremer has reviewed it?!?! See bottom right of picture.

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By "many", Fremer may be referring to the many non audiophile purists who are getting into vinyl because of the fad or "hip" vibe it has right now. I meet friends who tell me their teenagers want turntables for Christmas. I don't think Fremer is referring to the people who frequent the vinyl forums of WBF or AudioNirvana or own AS2000 turntables, but I could be wrong.
 
Here's the thing, if you spend a lot of time and effort/money trying to make sure your vinyl chain is as pure as possible, and as resolving as possible, why would you want to insert a digital product into said chain??? I know I sure don't want to.
If clicks and pops bother you too much, tells me you need a cleaner pressing of the record, plain and simple.
 
We should read the review before commenting - IMHO this is a really useful device for music lovers who buy used LPs.

Fremer is very clear he is addressing nasty scratches, not occasional pops and clicks, then concludes: "Which is preferable? No contest! Getting rid of the “pop” in exchange for the most subtle of differences was a most worthwhile trade-off. That said, would I just leave the “pop and click” remover engaged full-time? No."
Read more at https://www.analogplanet.com/content/sweet-vinyl-sugar-cube-sc-1-part-ii#mdQWH6pbAaORhg97.99

If it was not for the existence of digital sources of music, it would be the kind of device I would surely buy .
 
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Perhaps folks missed the point in the title of the thread. That thing offers a mode which strips the music and lets you hear only the noise
 
You maybe able to locate a Burwen Noise Eliminator?

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Thanks for suggesting and sorry if I was not clear - I meant if I was not committed to digital formats! I do not object at all to an ACD/DAC HiRez link, particularly if they share the same clock.
 
Perhaps folks missed the point in the title of the thread. That thing offers a mode which strips the music and lets you hear only the noise

That's actually desirable, so you know how much processing the device is actually doing.
I used to process my vinyl rips before, and depending on the software and how aggressive I was with the settings, it was clear that a lot of (musical) information was being thrown out, along with the pops and clicks.
Obviously no one is going to listen to their LPs in that mode. It's there mostly just so folks can hear the "magic" the unit performs, which is to remove the noise, and none of the music.
 
Here's the thing, if you spend a lot of time and effort/money trying to make sure your vinyl chain is as pure as possible, and as resolving as possible, why would you want to insert a digital product into said chain??? I know I sure don't want to.
If clicks and pops bother you too much, tells me you need a cleaner pressing of the record, plain and simple.

Easy. You want digital files for portable audio. I've used this device before and it works very well.
 
Easy. You want digital files for portable audio. I've used this device before and it works very well.
Not getting this?...digital files for portable audio...? If that's what you want, why not get the CD or the download, as the SQ is going to be good enough on the portable device. If you have to have the analog rip, once again, why not just get a better pressing?
 
Not getting this?...digital files for portable audio...? If that's what you want, why not get the CD or the download, as the SQ is going to be good enough on the portable device. If you have to have the analog rip, once again, why not just get a better pressing?

If you are into classic rock or jazz, often the LP masterings are the best. Transferring to digital allows portable use of this better sound. My portable files are hirez with a mix of needledrops.
 
If you are into classic rock or jazz, often the LP masterings are the best. Transferring to digital allows portable use of this better sound. My portable files are hirez with a mix of needledrops.

Ok, but I’m still missing why you need the sweetvinyl, any A to D converter would do, if the LP is noisy, you need a quieter pressing. :)
 
We should read the review before commenting - IMHO this is a really useful device for music lovers who buy used LPs.

Fremer is very clear he is addressing nasty scratches, not occasional pops and clicks, then concludes: "Which is preferable? No contest! Getting rid of the “pop” in exchange for the most subtle of differences was a most worthwhile trade-off. That said, would I just leave the “pop and click” remover engaged full-time? No."
Read more at https://www.analogplanet.com/content/sweet-vinyl-sugar-cube-sc-1-part-ii#mdQWH6pbAaORhg97.99

If it was not for the existence of digital sources of music, it would be the kind of device I would surely buy .
I would get the FM Acoustics phono pre amp with de-clicker popper. It really works and is purely analog.
 
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Ok, but I’m still missing why you need the sweetvinyl, any A to D converter would do, if the LP is noisy, you need a quieter pressing. :)

The SugarCube just makes it a bit easier by doing the ADC, declicking, and storage in one box.
 
I would get the FM Acoustics phono pre amp with de-clicker popper. It really works and is purely analog.

You need the 223 that costs 50k or so for the declicker to work. The 123 has it but doesn't work as well. The 122 and 222 do not have it
 

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