Elrog 300B

[nirodha]

Hi there, since I am using a tube amp (Air Tight 300R) for the first time, it is time to research the subject of tubes. Now using the new WE 300B tubes. Has anyone got experience with the Elrog ER300B or especially the ER300B-Mo? Or Takatsuki 300R? Also interested in the reliability of these expensive tubes. Thanks for the input !

 

[adrianywu]

I have been using both the Takatsuki and the new WE 300B. No experience with the Elrog. However, I am only using them on my mid-range. Both the Tak and the WE are very quiet, but the WE a bit quieter (my midrange has 112dB sensitivity, connected directly to the amps). Talking to Charles Whitener, he said WE has a patented method of hanging the filaments that results in low noise. I feel the Tak is a bit more laid back and more "rounded", and the WE sounds more dynamic, but again only by degrees. Both are excellent. I have used the Taks for about 3 years before putting the WE in about 3 years ago. I put the Taks in again last month just to see if there is a difference, which is very slight. I can't say which one I prefer.

 

[nirodha]

I have been using both the Takatsuki and the new WE 300B. No experience with the Elrog. However, I am only using them on my mid-range. Both the Tak and the WE are very quiet, but the WE a bit quieter (my midrange has 112dB sensitivity, connected directly to the amps). Talking to Charles Whitener, he said WE has a patented method of hanging the filaments that results in low noise. I feel the Tak is a bit more laid back and more "rounded", and the WE sounds more dynamic, but again only by degrees. Both are excellent. I have used the Taks for about 3 years before putting the WE in about 3 years ago. I put the Taks in again last month just to see if there is a difference, which is very slight. I can't say which one I prefer.

Thank you!

 

[Golum]

Hi;

I did not compare them myself but you do have a nice comparison here also taking into account Korean Stradi 300b tubes.

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[Sule22]

I have the Elrog ER300b, Elrog TM300b, Tak 300b, and a few pairs of WE300b NOS. I have not tried the Elrog ER300b-MO and modern WE300B. Also, I use these 300B for my pre, not power amps.

I was switching back and forth between the Tak and Elrog ER300b all the time as there were things I liked about each of them. Takatsuki has good details, more linear, and good depth whereas the ER300b was fast, open sounding with a very wide soundstage. The ER300b though in my system has a bit of harshness in the treble which I find a little too much at times.

Then came the Elrog TM300b, this tube has all the best characters of both the Tak 300b and Elrog ER300b, and more. Resolution and clarity are incredible while still be really musical. So much more micro details, nuances, and really dynamic. This is the best 300b I have ever owned.

As for the old school WE300b, I do enjoy them from time to time but they are not as neutral as the tubes above.

I have not tried the Elrog ER300b-MO but heard that they are also really good.

 

[Synaxis]

I have the Elrog ER300b, Elrog TM300b, Tak 300b, and a few pairs of WE300b NOS. I have not tried the Elrog ER300b-MO and modern WE300B. Also, I use these 300B for my pre, not power amps.

I was switching back and forth between the Tak and Elrog ER300b all the time as there were things I liked about each of them. Takatsuki has good details, more linear, and good depth whereas the ER300b was fast, open sounding with a very wide soundstage. The ER300b though in my system has a bit of harshness in the treble which I find a little too much at times.

Then came the Elrog TM300b, this tube has all the best characters of both the Tak 300b and Elrog ER300b, and more. Resolution and clarity are incredible while still be really musical. So much more micro details, nuances, and really dynamic. This is the best 300b I have ever owned.

As for the old school WE300b, I do enjoy them from time to time but they are not as neutral as the tubes above.

I have not tried the Elrog ER300b-MO but heard that they are also really good.

Well written. Thank you for sharing.

 

[antigrunge]

I run Taks, EAT‘s and Tj Full Music meshs on my Wavac EC300b. The Tj‘s are a rung below the other two, essentially more mushy. The EAT is the most dynamic and full bodied whereas the taks are detailed precision instruments. Like full orchestra on EAT and Taks on chamber music. All 3 in my admittedly gentle amp have been reliable