Is Audiophilia a Dying Hobby or Just in Need of a Tune-Up?

Audiophilia is facing a crisis. With most enthusiasts over 55 and younger generations uninterested in high-end audio, the hobby risks fading into obscurity. Blame it on space, budget constraints, or the elitist image of the community—something needs to change.

40% of Audiophiles May Be Gone Soon, and No One Is Replacing Them

Can we make audiophilia relevant and inviting for the next generation, or is this truly the end of an era?grave.jpg
 
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Headphones seem to be a bit of a gateway, as the CAN-JAMs are filled with young people. But I don't know what the conversion rate is of people who start with headphones and then progress to loudspeaker-based high-end systems.

Overall I'm pessimistic as the Boomers die out. But it could be worse. Amateur ("ham") radio makes high-end audio look like a growing, vibrant hobby.
 
Headphones seem to be a bit of a gateway, as the CAN-JAMs are filled with young people. But I don't know what the conversion rate is of people who start with headphones and then progress to loudspeaker-based high-end systems.

Overall I'm pessimistic as the Boomers die out. But it could be worse. Amateur ("ham") radio makes high-end audio look like a growing, vibrant hobby.
We’re losing potential audiophiles before they explore loudspeaker systems, what do you think we could do to make the leap more appealing?
 
I would like to know how they procured the demographic data and detail on the viewers of these YT video's.
You can procure demographic data for YouTube videos through YouTube Analytics, which is available to channel owners via the YouTube Studio dashboard.

Under the "Audience" tab in the Content Analytics, you'll see demographic details such as:
  • Gender distribution
  • Age groups
  • Geographic location
  • Returning vs. new viewers
 
You can procure demographic data for YouTube videos through YouTube Analytics, which is available to channel owners via the YouTube Studio dashboard.

Under the "Audience" tab in the Content Analytics, you'll see demographic details such as:
  • Gender distribution
  • Age groups
  • Geographic location
  • Returning vs. new viewers
Not sure how if you do not create a YT account. I never have, very interesting.
 
I would say it's in serious trouble. What do you consider as an inexpensive "Audiophile system"? You don't even have to own media you can just stream and listen through a Bluetooth speaker from your phone. Cost of system a subscription and $100 for the speaker. Where is the incentive to do more?

Rob :)
 
I would say it's in serious trouble. What do you consider as an inexpensive "Audiophile system"? You don't even have to own media you can just stream and listen through a Bluetooth speaker from your phone. Cost of system a subscription and $100 for the speaker. Where is the incentive to do more?

Rob :)
An inexpensive audiophile system is subjective, but it is possible to achieve high-quality sound without reaching the extreme price points of premium systems. Here's a breakdown of what such a system might look like:
  1. Speakers: Price range: $2,500 - $3,500
  2. Amplifier: Price range: $1,500 - $2,500
  3. Source / DAC: Price range: $1,000 - $1,500
  4. Turntable: Price range: $1,500 - $2,800
  5. Cables & Accessories: Price range: $500 - $1,300
 
I suspect that the state of "audiophilia" reflects the social and activity profiles of both individuals and society as a whole. When I first became interested in technology-enabled music reproduction, I was in my 20s and beginning to explore how a paycheck could translate into excitement (cars, motorcycles, skiing, travel, girls, and yes...hifi). It was cool to get the best performance out of everything by - uh - tweaking things and upgrading when opportunities arose. Much of my hifi experience back then involved like-minded friends; they didn't have to be into audio at the beginning, they just had to be excited about finding ways to make experiences better and more engaging. The truth is that while we certainly liked music, we really liked figuring out how to make it more engaging.
But as my friends and I got married, had kids, and found more demanding jobs, the need to work out solutions was largely replaced by a desire to just "get" a solution. We were too busy and often too tired. Yes, we were better able to buy our answers, but we also became more likely to experience them alone, rather than socially.
I think that many of us who frequent this site have followed this path. Some are finding new friends who've arrived at the same place and are beginning to add a social component to audio again, but others make their connections virtually (where, incidentally, they can be much less courteous than they'd need to be in person).
I see our larger society as heading the same way. Sure, twenty-somethings still socialize, but you don't see the same level of discovering and creating technological solutions among them. They usually just buy stuff. And in our increasingly economically-polarized world, it's mostly older people who can afford the best.
These are obviously broad generalizations.
 
Audiophilia is facing a crisis. With most enthusiasts over 55 and younger generations uninterested in high-end audio, the hobby risks fading into obscurity. Blame it on space, budget constraints, or the elitist image of the community—something needs to change.

40% of Audiophiles May Be Gone Soon, and No One Is Replacing Them

Can we make audiophilia relevant and inviting for the next generation, or is this truly the end of an era?

Audio is expensive. Younger people have different priorities. So the only relevant question vis a vis this article is: has the age pyramid changed over the past decades? Who knows... I doubt audiophiles are the subject of any serious demographic studies.

If you look at videos of audio show conferences 20 to 30 years ago, most of the participants had grey hair back then too. So what's new?
 
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Better music and a greater interest in music may lead to more audiophiles.

I would not dare comment on the quality of todays's music, but I seriously doubt that people today have less interest in music than in any other time period.

Regardless, the premise here can be challenged. As an example, I contribute to a jazz forum (Organissimo) - so a place where participants are interested in music (there are critics, collectors, producers, musicians, and small people like me), and the proportion of "audiophiles" remains very small.

The reason for this is simple: you don't need an "audiophile" system to enjoy and appreciate music.

Ironically, the top topic in the "Audio Talk" section of that forum is "Help with hearing aids..."

I interviewed a jazz "archivist"/critic (Jan Evensmo) some time ago and asked him...

Q: Readers may be curious to know what audio equipment you have at home

A: My audio equipment is very modest, just an amplifier, CD-player, turntable (with all speeds) and cassette player, all old stuff. Had to give up the reel player. And a pc connected to play all the music files I receive, plus spotify. I have never been very interested in sound as such. I noticed that people with expensive equipment always had very few records to play!!


The only thing that would lead to more people purchasing "better" systems would be for prices to go down - but that's assuming that you need to pay more for better sound, and I'm not even sure that's the case!
 
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Headphones seem to be a bit of a gateway, as the CAN-JAMs are filled with young people. But I don't know what the conversion rate is of people who start with headphones and then progress to loudspeaker-based high-end systems.

Overall I'm pessimistic as the Boomers die out. But it could be worse. Amateur ("ham") radio makes high-end audio look like a growing, vibrant hobby.
As of yesterday, there were 745,602 licensed Amateur Radio operators licensed in the United States by the FCC. That seems like a lot considering there are about the same number of people who have a license to practice public accounting in the United States.

The headphone people don’t migrate up to loudspeaker systems very often. People use headphones for a reason and the idea of sitting in a dedicated room has little appeal.
 
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The headphone people don’t migrate up to loudspeaker systems very often. People use headphones for a reason and the idea of sitting in a dedicated room has little appeal.

Right, and they can still be audiophiles. I started with headphones, and considered myself an audiophile back then, too.

Speaker set-ups can be rewarding and it's a different experience, but with headphones you don't have to fight with room acoustics, which can be a quite prolonged fight depending on the room. And yes, then it tends to turn into a dedicated room. Everything has its pros and cons.
 
I think it’s tough to reverse the trajectory. This is generally a time-consuming hobby. There’s no way my kids (music lovers both) would devote a couple of hours several times a week to JUST listening to music. They indulge me when they’re home for the holidays but if I get them to listen to BOTH sides of a record, I consider that mission accomplished.
 
Some Musings About the Hobby:

Interesting article that was referred to at the beginning of this thread. Not sure the "40%" is really representative of what's happening. If we're looking at YouTube views on a given product, sure they may trend down. But there are so many more products and brands on the market which creates a wider distribution of videos available. Nobody can watch them all so they look at a few that hold their interest. Look at U.S. trade shows; some have died and others have grown. Trade show numbers as viewed by exhibitors may appear to be smaller, but the number of exhibitors at these shows continues to grow, thereby distributing the number of folks making it to your room. For some reason new audio companies are started at a rather surprising rate. Will they garner enough market share to stay in business? Time will tell.

True, the traditional audiophiles are beginning to die off. Are their offspring taking their place? Doesn't appear they are in any significance. However, much of "high end audio" can be categorized as residing in the "luxury goods business." Watch (time pieces) companies are not dying. Sure, a new watch brand pops up every once in a while but for the most part the stalwart companies are the relevant portion of this luxury goods industry. The watch business has a 100 year head start on the high end audio business, so they are known by a bigger slice of the population. Audio needs to catch up to survive. In many foreign markets (especially some Asian locales) high end audio is becoming quite well known by the populous. Our hope is that our industry can get out of the esoteric shadow that it tends to be in. Constant promotion (advertising, etc.) and consumer coverage will be the key. The younger population that buys luxury goods is not trending down, but rather up, if we are to take the success of the watch industry as a possible indicator. We just need to become more well known as an industry. Any tips on how to do that are warmly welcomed.
 
Audiophilia is dying because there has been no real progress in sound for the past decades. The industry needs to keep up with higher production costs of producing essentially the same stuff that requires more and more marketing push. It’s like the watches industry without the showy/status symbol side that can keep prices elevated.
 
No real progress? I would beg to differ.

Tom
I would agree. I've seen and heard many areas of progress in high end audio. And it's exciting. Has the high end watch industry shown progress. Not so much in technical terms but mostly in aesthetic touches. To "leyenda's" point (a few posts back), there is a status element that high end watches have. Getting to that "status" level would propel our industry tremendously. But for us, in our industry, improved performance must accompany status! And for most of us music is a sacred gift.
 

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