John DeVore on the Grey Market and OCD Mikey

[Lee]

 

[Al M.]

It says the video is private.

 

[hopkins]

Juicy stuff starts around 10:15

 

[Al M.]

Thanks

 

[Lee]

Sorry, it worked when I first posted it. Not sure how it wound up private.

 

[facten]

@Lee Did you tell John DeVore that you were posting this here? How about OCD Mickey? This likely is going to turn into a s_ _ t show

 

[sujay]

I unsubscribed from OCD mikey’s you tube channel way back. I dont find his content balanced. He is generally condescending and portrays as if he is doing everyone a favour without any vested interest. This is just my view. I saw the video and if it’s true, am not surprised at all……..well there could be many others out there as well.

 

[Lee]

@Lee Did you tell John DeVore that you were posting this here? How about OCD Mickey? This likely is going to turn into a s_ _ t show

I did not talk to either yet but it’s in the public domain at this point.

We have not heard Mike’s side of the story so hopefully he responds with a video of his own.

 

[Carlos269]

This is one corrupt and greedy industry. The YouTube influencers are now becoming the mouthpiece of manufacturers who offer them all expenses paid factory tour visits and discounted, loaner, and free products.

For the most parts, I now get all my equipment custom made by honest builders.

Don’t get swindled! If you are smart enough to have earned the money to buy these outrageously priced products then don’t be dumb enough to give it away for overpriced shiny boxes that don’t deliver on sound.

 

[Al M.]

I did not talk to either yet but it’s in the public domain at this point.

Would have been my answer too.

 

[tima]

The YouTube influencers are now becoming the mouthpiece of manufacturers who offer them all expenses paid factory tour visits and discounted, loaner, and free products.

Don't blame manufacturers who also do the same for non-YouTube promoters and dealers.

YouTube influencers are only influencers to the fools who watch them. There have always been pitchmen and hucksters along with those who fall for them.

 

[Republicoftexas69]

Thanks for posting. Interesting situation, I am sure Mike will post a retort.

 

[facten]

I did not talk to either yet but it’s in the public domain at this point.

There are a lot of things in the public domain. Is there a point to stirring this particular pot, or is it because of the individual , OCD Mikey, being involved?

 

[tima]

There are a lot of things in the public domain. Is there a point to stirring this particular pot, ...

Apparently John Devore thinks so.

 

[Lee]

There are a lot of things in the public domain. Is there a point to stirring this particular pot, or is it because of the individual , OCD Mikey, being involved?

I don’t understand why you are angry about this. We talk about controversies in the forum all the time. What is your real concern here?

I would like to hear Mike’s side of the story. He needs to tell us what happened.

 

[Audiohertz2]

This is one corrupt and greedy industry.

Which one isn’t ....?

 

[Ron Resnick]

This is one corrupt and greedy industry.

This is a delusional and grotesque overstatement. One or two or even three rotten apples doesn't spoil the whole barrel.

 

[Carlos269]

This is a delusional and grotesque overstatement. One or two or even three rotten apples doesn't spoil the whole barrel.

What makes you think that it is only three rotten apples out of the barrel? Have you ever worked on electronics development and manufacturing? I have done both military and aerospace, for NASA, design development and manufacturing of limited & small batch run electronics and can assure you that the retail cost of high-end products is not inline with their development and production costs.

 

[Ron Resnick]

What makes you think that it is only three rotten apples out of the barrel? Have you ever worked on electronics development and manufacturing? I have done both military and aerospace, for NASA, design development and manufacturing of limited & small batch run electronics and can assure you that the retail cost of high-end products is not inline with their development and production costs.

Thank you for explaining why we all know so many high-end audio manufacturers who collect exotic cars, fly private and amass portfolios of real estate.

Apologies to the membership for this sarcastic comment which I recognize is unbecoming.

 

[Carlos269]

Thank you for explaining why we all know so many high-end audio manufacturers who collect exotic cars, fly private and amass portfolios of real estate.

Apologies to the membership for this sarcastic comment which I recognize is unbecoming.

Since you are such an analog guy, look into the development and production costs of cartridges for example and compare them to the cost of development and production of magnetometers for precision guided electronics, including in weapons systems, with exotic magnetic cores and materials. I would joke with my engineers that building cartridges for the audiophile industry would have been a lot more lucrative. Should we discuss the development and production cost of audiophile cables?.