All New Vera-Fi Audio Swiss Digital Fuse Box With Core Power Piggy Tail Review : WOW !...
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Yes the adaptor in my system is 5x better
That’s hard to opine on ; perhaps sources then amp then peripherals
That’s hard to opine on ; perhaps sources then amp then peripherals
I have an SDFB with extreme piggy for my amp. During the first 30 hours I thought the tone was a little off. Now after another 30 hours I am totally blown away by this device. Obviously the Piggy and Sluggo need lots of break in. I was going to order an adapter from Audio Sensibility and I may still, but I am loath to spend another $280 when everything sound so good now. Nonetheless, I have ordered the adapter you recommend from Amazon for $20 and will compare to the Piggy tail. It is not as high quality as the two Furutech pieces that AS uses in their adapter, but it has the benefit of being a single piece, with no connections and no wire. We shall see how it sounds.
If anyone is interested in DIY, you could remove the US socket on the SDFB and gland a cable into it. You can also upgrade the IEC socket on the SDFB for something like an ETI legato.
If you want to go further, you can remove the innards of the SDFB and install it into your piece of Hifi equipment. I did this on my Balanced Isolation Transformer, removing the need for any piggy tail.
If you want to go further, you can remove the innards of the SDFB and install it into your piece of Hifi equipment. I did this on my Balanced Isolation Transformer, removing the need for any piggy tail.
@MattSPL fully respect your DIY desires.
That said - how will I (or anyone for that matter) manage a Warranty Claim should something go wrong here.
Love the cool stuff you are doing - but heck, I have to bail our customers that make a mistake.
Please also remember - Balanced Power Conditioners create a "virtual ground" by their very nature. Maybe you have it all figured out and I'm worried for no reason... but Vera-Fi is important to my team, and I would hate for something to go awry.
Most sincerely - Mark
That said - how will I (or anyone for that matter) manage a Warranty Claim should something go wrong here.
Love the cool stuff you are doing - but heck, I have to bail our customers that make a mistake.
Please also remember - Balanced Power Conditioners create a "virtual ground" by their very nature. Maybe you have it all figured out and I'm worried for no reason... but Vera-Fi is important to my team, and I would hate for something to go awry.
Most sincerely - Mark
Hi Mark,
I understand your concern and apologies if I opened up a can of worms. Mods feel free to delete my previous post if necessary.
If anyone was to tamper with the SDFB, it would be expected to void any warranty, like any piece of Hifi. I bought mine used, so it wasn’t a concern for me.
My SDFB is installed on the primary side of the Balanced Transformer, replacing an SR Purple fuse and giving a nice increase in sound quality.
Thanks
Matt
I've been running the SDFB for the past month, and so far I'm not yet ready to make any conclusions.
However, I would say that the need for an additional power cord is something to think about and is not as straightforward as I presumed.
The Extreme Piggy did not work well for my system; when I got this my initial move was to plug the SDFB and the piggy between my existing power cord (the QSA-Lanedri Gamma Infinity) and my component (Riviera AIC10).... and despite a 2+ week burn-in, the sound was less desirable than my original pre-SDFB state.
Replacing the Piggy with 2 different power cords made a decent change, but now I'm not sure if I'm hearing the difference between power cords alone or if the SDFB actually made a difference. Plus the power cords can be quite costly.
In all transparency, I did not try the Amazon adapter between the SDFB and my power condition (Shunyata Denali S6000/V2) because .... well.... I'm not eager to put a $11 non-audiophile plug in my system.
I will be going back to my default configuration pre-SDFB in the next day or two to see if this made much of an impact in my system. Perhaps it works better for some components/systems than others.
However, I would say that the need for an additional power cord is something to think about and is not as straightforward as I presumed.
The Extreme Piggy did not work well for my system; when I got this my initial move was to plug the SDFB and the piggy between my existing power cord (the QSA-Lanedri Gamma Infinity) and my component (Riviera AIC10).... and despite a 2+ week burn-in, the sound was less desirable than my original pre-SDFB state.
Replacing the Piggy with 2 different power cords made a decent change, but now I'm not sure if I'm hearing the difference between power cords alone or if the SDFB actually made a difference. Plus the power cords can be quite costly.
In all transparency, I did not try the Amazon adapter between the SDFB and my power condition (Shunyata Denali S6000/V2) because .... well.... I'm not eager to put a $11 non-audiophile plug in my system.
I will be going back to my default configuration pre-SDFB in the next day or two to see if this made much of an impact in my system. Perhaps it works better for some components/systems than others.
Hence, the options for differing pigtails. I'm personally glad to see that these options are more (now) than just a handful.
Tom
Republicoftexas69
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Does anyone know if it does sonically what the Gryphon Power Zone allegedly does? From the user feedback on that thread, sounds like it does for a very reasonable cost. And the operational description makes perfect sense (brilliantly simple) unlike the mysterious Gryphon device.
If I still had a serious audio system, this is a product I would definitely audition. Warranties be damned.
If I still had a serious audio system, this is a product I would definitely audition. Warranties be damned.
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Not convinced it is system dependent. In any high-end system the sdfb with adapter will make a positive change vs. stock fuses. The iec in a system is not going to be different than the adaptor. If many folks have touted the bona fides of the adaptor it might be worth intellectual flexibility to try. You can return if it doesnt work. Just because it is inexpensive doesn’t mean it wont work - if it were $1,000 would one think differently about it ?
...not long ago, and still for sale, QSA "jitters" were a thing. Prices from a couple of hundo to this 5K gold version. Have not tried them, but making the point that inserting a cheap-looking adapter into a system may not be a new/foreign idea. Perhaps a matter of marketing and suspension of disbelief? A fascinating study.
The irony is the stock fuses are 10 cents from China. Also the iec throughout all components are something akin to
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I think that using higher quality parts/build in this situation is a matter of doing less harm.
Republicoftexas69
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Uh - excuse me. Who made you the relevancy judge? Why? Curiosity. Looks like a great product. And the PZ product is very pricey.
My sincere apologies.
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I’m happy to explain. The way to forum site works is that it is indexed with posts that pertain to certain subjects. Thus, to maintain an ideal referenceable site, it is beneficial to discuss the topic at hand. Just like you wouldn’t go on a post regarding analog and vinyl and start asking about DACs.
Given some 2,400 posts and 14 years of WBF involvement, I am well aware of how this forum is supposed to function ideally and how it actually does. And I don't believe my comparative performance question was way off topic. No worries. Would love to hear your system and glad you like the product under discussion. Best.
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