Over the last decade or so, I have evaluated @15 types of audiophile fuses covering a wide range of price points. Almost every option will outperform a generic fuse and I would recommend the Padis to fuse neophytes as it is both very competent and reasonably priced. If you like what it does, then you will experience an even greater jump going up to the SR Blue. If however you find your system sounds too thin / cold with the Padis, then consider the AM Beeswax options.
Audiophile Fuses
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I took my Blue out of my monos about two weeks ago. Not concluding that they are not good but I have components keep coming into my system. The Blues gave me more quietness which I really don’t need any more of. My system is already very quiet. It is the kind of quietness that shaped off spatial info, high extension and openness in my system. The Blues also gave me more pronounce in mids. Yes, the sound got louder as someone said. But I don’t have a patience waiting 300 hrs. This is longer than burning in cartridges. So I sent them to my friends to do time for me. Now the Blacks are back in place. Honestly, the fully burned Blacks are good enough for me.
Kind regards,
Tang
Hello Tang, I hope you get a chance to try them again but understand the problem evaluating when lots of other changes are happening.
You are right about the mids and the spatial info just explodes back in after break in so no worries there.
Blacks just not my cup of tea.
Cheers
Blue58
Hi Highstream,
You’re right in what you hear though in my system I hear no lack of emotional involvement so indeed system synergy is the key.
Active ATC with black fuses are a world away from AG Duos and SETs.
I’m about to replace the Beeswax in my SETs this week with Blues. Will this be a step too far.?
Do you plan on changing the Blacks in the ATCs?
Blue58
After the sheer Hell that has been my analog rig burn in, no way would I consider a fuse that genuinely takes 300 hrs.
That’s beyond a joke.
That’s beyond a joke.
Thank you, Audiocrack, and thank you Mark (and Marc C., too)!
I will be ordering some Ultimate Beeswax SHDs in due course.
Twitch, I’m very good friends w Barry, and he’s absolutely sold on the Blue in his SGM.
But I really couldn’t face that period.
My Blacks pretty much sounded of their best by the second day of install (other than in my preamp where several were installed in low DC zones, and things took a few more days).
Suffice to say, I’m totally happy I stuck w Blacks and resisted the temptation to go Blues.
But I really couldn’t face that period.
My Blacks pretty much sounded of their best by the second day of install (other than in my preamp where several were installed in low DC zones, and things took a few more days).
Suffice to say, I’m totally happy I stuck w Blacks and resisted the temptation to go Blues.
spirit man, I was serious, if you or anyone else can explain to me (in scientific facts) what would take 300 hours in a 'fuse' to 'burn in' ......?? I'm all ears !!
The way I see it, a fuse is a form of power cord. Like the latter, however long it takes to burn in, 300 hours or more or less, it does. I'm sure there are some technical explanations about burn in around, but even if there aren't, that wouldn't prove it's not real, just that it's a phenomenon that lots of people have heard but doesn't have a scientific explanation yet. The absence of explanation is not evidence of absence.
The first question I'm looking at is whether to try the Ultimate fuse in the dac. The Super is a great improvement in overcoming the sense of digital sameness I spoke about, but still is not quite right enough tonally or have the degree of warmth I'm looking for (that may need a different solution). Audio Magic (email) says the Ultimate "without question builds on the SHD, tighter bass, more spacious, in fact it’s just better every where and it has an uncanny ease and musicality about it..."the most natural sounding fuse by a stretch I’ve ever made, a piano sounds like a piano. It is very neutral and all instruments sound as they should."
That should sound appealing, but what I've been asking about is the Ultimate's warmth relative to the Super and so far haven't gotten a direct answer (and maybe won't). For me, that's a problem because in my experience, especially with cables and fuses, natural and neutral are opposites. Every time I hear the two together it means "cool" and maybe even a touch steely, but not warm, or at least much so. In my view - or to my hearing - the human voice and acoustic instruments are typically naturally warm (in varying degrees), and that's what I'm looking for first in my system, ahead of wonderful "sonic effects." Perhaps this dichotomy is overcome in very high end, much pricier equipment than I'm able to dabble in, but I've never had the opportunity to hear systems like that. In any case, to each their enjoyment...
As for the ATC's, yes, I'm considering switching the Blacks to either the Super or Ultimate. I'd prefer to hear an Ultimate first, but they are $$ and as far as I'm aware they are made to order, so there's no auditioning/returns. I'll probably have a 1A small Blue to sell once I get this figured out.
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OMG .........if there is a 'change' then in FACT there has to be an explanation, understood. I take it you drank the 'Kool-Aid' !
Phenomena within the human realm are always experienced before an explanation is hypothesized, let alone established, historically often hundreds or thousands of years before, if ever (yet). In fact, right now, in this very moment, your mind and body are experiencing things that neither you or anyone else will ever have a direct explanation for, but are no less felt as very real because they are. So let's hope someone comes up with an explanation for what many of us readily recognize - and move on...
I do appreciate that point, however, as I have migrated up the food chain Factory Glass-Red's-Black's-Blue's I have yet to fail in recognising an easily perceived sonic evolution, straight out of the box, when compared to the previous incumbent.
Harlequin
As now owning the same ARC 250 amps as you .Could you tell me which fuses you use ?
That is in the fuse holder next to the mains lead
I am a complete novice to fuses
Thanks in advance
As now owning the same ARC 250 amps as you .Could you tell me which fuses you use ?
That is in the fuse holder next to the mains lead
I am a complete novice to fuses
Thanks in advance
No problem Gardner, I hope that you are enjoying your 250's, I have moved from Synergistic Research Red to Black and just very recently to the lates Blue, each revision has improved my system replay by a remarkable degree.
I would go as far as to comment that IMHO they, in concert with Vintage production 6550 and 6h30-DR valves, brings me to the conclusion that I have never really 'heard' the REF 250se and REF10 equipment before, they are capable of higher levels of fidelity than the factory valves and fusing will allow them so to do.
Should the Blues prove too much of a leap of faith there will invariably be second hand Blacks dripping on to the SH market, they are excellent however If you can afford the Blue they are a sonic evolution upon the Blacks.
I would go as far as to comment that IMHO they, in concert with Vintage production 6550 and 6h30-DR valves, brings me to the conclusion that I have never really 'heard' the REF 250se and REF10 equipment before, they are capable of higher levels of fidelity than the factory valves and fusing will allow them so to do.
Should the Blues prove too much of a leap of faith there will invariably be second hand Blacks dripping on to the SH market, they are excellent however If you can afford the Blue they are a sonic evolution upon the Blacks.
Thirty days would be some 720 hours, it doesn't require a listener. But the number of uncontrolled variables is staggering.
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