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These discussions (and how we need to deal with them) remind me of a story I heard many, many years ago.

When a Senator was asked about his position on a very controversial issue coming up for vote, he responded: "Some of my friends are for it and some of my friends are against it. And I'm for my friends"

One of the things I find interesting about politics is how it mirrors society in some very specific ways. You would be hard pressed to find a single politician who would raise his hand and say, "this is my party's fault". It is ALWAYS the other party's fault. Obama is still blaming Bush for the mess we are in (?). Bush blamed Clinton, etc, etc, etc.

Blows me away.
 
They all should be forced to put a copy of Harry Truman's The Buck Stops Here sign. on their desks. But instead of the sign facing the visitor in front of the desk, the sign should face them.
 
While we are ranting about politicians :), how about the use of the word "challenge." Obama uses it every other word as it seems every other politician. It is a positive sounding word for to cover up lack of ideas or ability to want to work through whatever the issue is. The fact that they use it thinking we don't understand insults listeners intelligence. Any difficult question gets answered with: "well, that is definitely a challenge." That is not an answer. But many just stop at that. "We have a big challenge in front of us." etc. etc. They all anxiously ran to be in the position they are in. They don't get to complain after the fact that the job or specific task is "challenging." You were full of answers the day before. Now it is all a "challenge?"

Our governor was quoted yesterday as saying "she is without plan" because none of the tax measures got passed. Without plan? Was she really banking on tax measures going through for her plan to work and no other alternative if the voters didn't agree? Her plan to go and give a speech in Germany to BMW employees for opening a carbon fiber plant here employing 80 people apparently did not need changing. We have $5B deficit and she is in another country the day after election for PR work. If she has no plan for the $5B, she needs to be here to figure one out not go on a junket like that. It is not like BMW is moving an entire car manufacturing plant here.
 
While we are ranting about politicians :), how about the use of the word "challenge." Obama uses it every other word as it seems every other politician. It is a positive sounding word for to cover up lack of ideas or ability to want to work through whatever the issue is. The fact that they use it thinking we don't understand insults listeners intelligence. Any difficult question gets answered with: "well, that is definitely a challenge." That is not an answer. But many just stop at that. "We have a big challenge in front of us." etc. etc. They all anxiously ran to be in the position they are in. They don't get to complain after the fact that the job or specific task is "challenging." You were full of answers the day before. Now it is all a "challenge?"

Our governor was quoted yesterday as saying "she is without plan" because none of the tax measures got passed. Without plan? Was she really banking on tax measures going through for her plan to work and no other alternative if the voters didn't agree? Her plan to go and give a speech in Germany to BMW employees for opening a carbon fiber plant here employing 80 people apparently did not need changing. We have $5B deficit and she is in another country the day after election for PR work. If she has no plan for the $5B, she needs to be here to figure one out not go on a junket like that. It is not like BMW is moving an entire car manufacturing plant here.

Another failed tax scheme. I know I would never get elected.
Here is what it cost to run the government. We are going to have a progressive tax rate , no deductions. business would only be taxed on thier real profits. The only way I can save you money is by being innovative and efficient.
 
While we are ranting about politicians :), how about the use of the word "challenge." Obama uses it every other word as it seems every other politician. It is a positive sounding word for to cover up lack of ideas or ability to want to work through whatever the issue is. The fact that they use it thinking we don't understand insults listeners intelligence. Any difficult question gets answered with: "well, that is definitely a challenge." That is not an answer. But many just stop at that. "We have a big challenge in front of us." etc. etc. They all anxiously ran to be in the position they are in. They don't get to complain after the fact that the job or specific task is "challenging." You were full of answers the day before. Now it is all a "challenge?"

Our governor was quoted yesterday as saying "she is without plan" because none of the tax measures got passed. Without plan? Was she really banking on tax measures going through for her plan to work and no other alternative if the voters didn't agree? Her plan to go and give a speech in Germany to BMW employees for opening a carbon fiber plant here employing 80 people apparently did not need changing. We have $5B deficit and she is in another country the day after election for PR work. If she has no plan for the $5B, she needs to be here to figure one out not go on a junket like that. It is not like BMW is moving an entire car manufacturing plant here.

Amir, You are thinking logically and like a business person. (I am guessing 'cause I am absolutely not a business person.) But here in California, the two prominent and accomplished business people in the runnings (Meg Whitman-eBay and Carly Fiorina-HP) got their *@$$'s handed to them on Tuesday. Both articulated very specific proposals to help CA businesses that made sense even to me. I consult for businesses about long-term r&d (which is inextriacably linked to their business plans) and witness much frustration about making plans in this state. It is very burdensome to do business here. Unemployment is 12%. Even small consulting businesses have a heavy buy-in in CA (we incorporated in VA).

If ever there was a time when these arguments could have prevailed surely it was on Tuesday. But they didn't.

Note: I hope this comes across as an observation, not a political statement. :confused:
 
Her plan to go and give a speech in Germany to BMW employees for opening a carbon fiber plant here employing 80 people apparently did not need changing.

What's worse is your state probably paid BMW in tax incentives and direct aid enough to float those 80 people for a decade. When people start talking about small government as if it will automatically be better, I think about state governments. When they start talking about running government like a business, as if that's a good thing, I think of the Fortune 100 companies I worked for. There are no easy solutions, just easy slogans.

Tim
 
I wish it was Obamacare. he ran from it like it was a loathsome disease. Pun intended.
 
To lighten things up a bit..... This was originally broadcast in 1982, but is as accurate today, 28 years later, as it was then.

Watch as Johnny Carson plays a politician who has agreed to be hooked up to a lie detector for his press conference. THIS should be a requirement for ALL of them.

The lie detector <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKgmScYcK6g&amp;feature=related>
 
Hi

I have been laughing so much my belly ached .. This is the most funny sketch I have watched for some years .. Yeah! Johnny is The Standard ...
 
Funny moment. As I type this, a commercial for one of the initiatives was playing. I thought, what the heck? Election is over.... just to realize I am watching a program that I had recorded! :D Hate having to relive this campaign. It was a nasty, negative and repetitive one.....
 
Clinton handed Bush a trillion dollar surplus. Bush "handed it back," with top heavy tax reductions. That would have been fine if he didn't go nation building.

Deregulation of the banks led to disaster. That blame belongs to Clinton and the Republicans in the House, and Senate.

What blows me away is the continued tax deductions for outsourcing. Fiorina sank her own political aspirations by taking responsibility for the loss of 30,000 jobs. With the cheaper labor, and the tax deductions it was a no brainer for her. Sad thing is, all the small businesses suffer when big companies move out. We need to reverse the tax on businesses. Those who outsource are taxed per job loss here. Those who bring jobs back get rewarded with big tax breaks.
 
Hi

So far civil . let's hope it remains so

Taxes in these USA are very hot political issues. yet there is a dire reality: Taxes revenues need to increase before much else can be done. In order for us to continue to live in the America we have come to expect...There must be more revenues. So what to do? Often repeated arguments are that higher taxes are an impediment to businesses, that people will flee, etc.. Yet countries with the Highest Index of Human Satisfaction, also have high taxes and people don't flee them. Hey! They seem quite happy there, last time I checked I didn't see people leaving The Scandinavian Countries by the boatloads, Taxes there hover much above 55%... I do cringe as such high rate personally but, it is hard to see how granting taxes break to the richer people can truly help ... Running such a huge country face with new threats and new serious and extraordinarily well funded competition (read China where Taxes can be whatever the Government deems necessary) and India as the first to come to mind but also Brazil, South Africa, South Korea..those being the “nice” competitors, then add to that those seriously intent on destroying us and one can see that having less money in the government coffers in these times is not what one should wish for ..Oh yeah! a recovery will bring revenues but any glance toward history recent or past would show that recoveries take time, usually more than 4 years , meanwhile the bad guys will not call a truce and wait for us to rebound nor will the competitors ...
I am not too sure of how this will/should be implemented. A good start would be to taxes those at a certain level higher than those at the bottom, e3specially when we have such a blatant revenue inequality, unprecedented in the history of our nation, it looks clear to me that Taxes revenues are to increase in some ways if we are to continue to enjoy this American life so may of us take for granted...

Concerning Health Care , we spend more per person for our health in this nation, yet we are behind in all categories that matters, we a re obese, sick , overfed, overmedicated, a brief visit to an hospital cost us (one way or another) vast amount of money with no comparison with country that treat people better. We can always refute the UN findings. One simple visit to any European countries will tell you all there is to know about the Health, yes, the health of our Health Care System .. The present one, torn, compromised to the Max, is a start , a bad one maybe but we needed to break the status quo, to really address this issue. It won’t go away because we think we have the best Health Care system in the world. It will when we address the problems, honestly, seriously and with determination, when we understand that there is a considerable value to social growth in any community and make the sacrifices that are needed to bring it in line with the reality of a changing world…

And that is all that I had to say about this , maybe not quite … :)
 
Here is my little healthcare story. For my audio/video business we had signed up with Primera for insurance for our first year of existence. Renewal comes and they say our rate is about to increase 22%! I ask why. They said because the average age of our employees have gone up since we hired my older brother and his wife. 22%! The bill was going to be $90,000/year for our portion (75%) to insure our 9 or so employees! This is well above what I pay for my employees in the company. The employees meanwhile kept asking me for dental (the above was just for medical). Researched that. The premium we have to pay was something like 10% cheaper than the maximum insurance company would pay! What is the point of insurance when you pay 90% of what they could ever pay back? I don't pay 90% of my house value in property insurance. Or car.

I don't know what healthcare bill we passed and how it was supposed to help me. What I do know is that I had to spend two months trying to find something cheaper. So we found another carrier, double the deductible, etc and still, only saved a few thousand dollars.

Meanwhile, I check into the hospital because I was not feeling well and the first carrier barely pays 20 to 30% of the cost. It doesn't pay my full doctor visits because it thinks the fees our out of ordinary, resulting in my co-pay instead of being $10, being something like $34.

This is one messy, complex system which breaks the backs of small businesses like ours who are trying to do our part to start new companies and create jobs. I don't know enough about it to offer solutions but what is there, despite reform, seems to be really broken.
 
With respect to healthcare reform, you could not have crafted a worse 'solution' than that enacted. Here is my response to an editorial in a NJ publication from last summer. I have underlined text from the original editorial for clarity:


Mr. Silow-Carroll,
I read with great interest your August 13th column from the New Jersey Jewish News was sent to me via the Union for Reform Judaism's Daily '10 Minutes' of Torah. I would like to respond point by point. As a practicing radiologist in Washington State, I sit at the nexus of many of the trends that are discussed.

“In the richest country in the world, we’re spending twice per person on health care than other industrialized countries, over 45 million people don’t have health coverage, and costs are spiraling out of control, eating up more and more of families’ and the country’s budgets”

I will discuss some of the reasons why we spend more than other industrialized countries below. I do want to address the situation of the 45 (or 47 or 50) million without health coverage. A word about how the government counts the number of uninsured. If you aren’t covered by a plan for one day of the entire year (in other words if you have insurance for 364 days during the year), the government counts you as among the 47 million. By analogy, if you have sex with your partner 364 days of the year the government would count you as being completely abstinent for the entire year!

According to recent data from the Census Bureau, 9.5 million are illegal aliens (even Michael Moore concedes we shouldn’t pay for these folks' health care), 8.7 million make over $75,000 per year and choose not to purchase health insurance (and an addition 8.3 million make between $50,000-$75,000 and choose not to purchase health insurance), 8.5 million are between the ages of 18 and 25 and think they are bulletproof. Interestingly, 11.5 million are eligible for government programs such as Medicare and SCHIP but have not signed up. (Question: how does reforming health care reach these people?) The Kaiser Family Foundation, a left of center not for profit, estimates the number of people without access to government health programs and without insurance are between 8.2-13.9 million. Even if we assume that the number is much higher--say 20 million, this represents 7% of the population. I believe in the great compassion of Americans and polling has consistently show the public's support of programs to provide insurance for these folks.

If you review the government's data, family spending on food, shelter, transportation and health care has been remarkably consistent since 1900 at between 70-75% of family expenses. True, the ratio of health care spending has risen, but this has been offset by declines in the other items.

Do any of the current proposals begin to address the most pressing problems?

“Yes, the major proposals developing in Congress and supported by the Obama administration would make a big dent in the coverage problem. They would provide subsidies for lower-to-mid-income people to buy health insurance, change the rules so insurers can’t reject people or charge higher premiums for those with prior health conditions, and expand the federal-state Medicaid program for the poor and near-poor. They’d also require nearly everyone to have coverage, so the costs of emergency room visits and hospital services for the uninsured would no longer get shifted to premiums paid by the rest of us.”

The current House proposal in no way begins to address the most pressing problems; it only exacerbates the current problems which are largely a creation of government intervention.

A legitimate complaint about our system is cost. Let’s take a look at the country’s largest insurer, Medicare. Since its inception, the costs of the program have consistently exceeded government’s expectations. At its beginning in 1966, Medicare cost $3 billion and the initial (conservative!) inflation adjusted cost estimate of $12 billion in 1990 when in fact the cost in 1990 was $109 billion! In 2007, Medicare spending was $440 billion, 16% of the entire federal budget. Currently, the most optimistic projections have the program underfunded by 30 TRILLION dollars but let’s remember Warren Buffett’s lament, “In the insurance business all surprises are negative.” Shouldn't the government fix Medicare before attempting to fix the rest of the system?


Despite this, Medicare reimbursements do not cover the actual patient costs to physicians and hospitals. In other words, hospitals and physicians lose money taking care of Medicare patients. This results in the phenomena of ‘cost-shifting’. In order to stay in business physicians and hospitals charge patients with private insurance greater than market rates to offset the losses incurred taking care of Medicare patients. For FY 2007, the government reported that Medicare covered only 94% of actual costs and that number is projected to decline further in coming years. A recent study by the Millman health consulting firm estimated this cost shifting at 91 billions dollars (51 billion hospital/40 billion physician). As a result the actual costs of Medicare are significantly under-reported and the resultant artificially high cost of private insurance makes it less affordable.

State healthcare mandates also raise the cost of private insurance. These mandates are services that every private insurer must provide in order to be licensed to sell insurance. In the state of Washington where I live, there are 57 (!) mandates including massage therapy, acupuncture, drug and alcohol rehab, etc. These raise the cost of insurance and making it less affordable. For example, the cost of my plan includes services such as fertility, substance abuse, psychiatric services, acupuncture and chiropractic services that I would not pay for if given the opportunity to save the money.

Advocates of a single payer system like to point out that the overhead costs (i.e. the actual costs of running the program, commonly expressed as a percentage of total costs) for government sponsored programs such as Medicare. This is true but misleading. Firstly, to calculate the denominator (overhead costs/total expenditures) for Medicare is higher than other insurance plans. This is because Medicare patients are 65 and older and consume significantly more health care per capita than younger Americans. Secondly, a significant amount of the overhead cost for private insurers (who are interested in making a profit) is spent on fraud prevention. By contrast, CMS estimates of Medicare fraud are in the range of $60 billion per year, ~10-15% of total expenditures!

Advocates of the government option and single payer systems believe that they can decrease costs while maintaining quality and access to care. However, the head of the CBO recent stated that preventative programs are unlikely to result in cost savings and could even end up increasing costs (as previously undiagnosed patients receive more costly care and costs are incurred for false positive screening studies). The CBO has also estimated the tab of the current House proposal at $1 Trillion. Given the fraud statistics for Medicare and history of underestimated costs of Medicare and Medicaid, any proposed cost savings from improved efficiency would seem to be at best optimistic and ephemeral.

That is not to say private insurance as currently constituted could not be improved. Currently the costs of services are disconnected from the costs that the consumer pays. The following excerpt from The Atlantic elegantly summarizes the problem:

“Health insurance is different from every other type of insurance. Health insurance is the primary payment mechanism not just for expenses that are unexpected and large, but for nearly all health-care expenses. We’ve become so used to health insurance that we don’t realize how absurd that is. We can’t imagine paying for gas with our auto-insurance policy, or for our electric bills with our homeowners insurance, but we all assume that our regular checkups and dental cleanings will be covered at least partially by insurance.

Comprehensive health insurance is such an ingrained element of our thinking, we forget that its rise to dominance is relatively recent. Modern group health insurance was introduced in 1929, and employer-based insurance began to blossom during World War II, when wage freezes prompted employers to expand other benefits as a way of attracting workers. Still, as late as 1954, only a minority of Americans had health insurance. That’s when Congress passed a law making employer contributions to employee health plans tax-deductible without making the resulting benefits taxable to employees. This seemingly minor tax benefit not only encouraged the spread of catastrophic insurance, but had the accidental effect of making employer-funded health insurance the most affordable option (after taxes) for financing pretty much any type of health care. There was nothing natural or inevitable about the way our system developed: employer-based, comprehensive insurance crowded out alternative methods of paying for health-care expenses only because of a poorly considered tax benefit passed half a century ago.

In designing Medicare and Medicaid in 1965, the government essentially adopted this comprehensive-insurance model for its own spending, and by the next year had enrolled nearly 12% of the population. And it is no coincidence that the great inflation in health-care costs began soon after. We all believe we need comprehensive health insurance because the cost of care—even routine care—appears too high to bear on our own. But the use of insurance to fund virtually all care is itself a major cause of health care’s high expense.”

Note the effect of well-intentioned state intervention...I believe that private insurance should be exactly that: insurance for catastrophic health care expenses beyond the reach of the average American. Additionally, we must re-establish the relationship between cost and service rendered. A high deductible, low cost alternative without state mandates should be an alternative. Savings could be used to fund Health Saving Accounts and to subsidize premiums for low income families. Individuals who want to buy insurance should have the playing field equalized and receive tax breaks for the cost of the insurance.

One reform that is little discussed in the current House proposal is tort reform. Whatever the estimates of the direct and indirect costs to our system, this cost is almost certainly underestimated. Anecdotally, as a radiologist, I see this everyday. Physicians are confronted by patients who demand expensive tests (for which they pay a small out of pocket expense) for conditions they almost certainly do not have. If you decline the patient’s request you stand a good chance of losing that patient to another physician who is willing to order the test(s) and subject to liability for any untoward outcome, no matter how low the probability. If our political class decries the ‘obscene profit margins’ of the private insurance company which currently stands at 3.3% of revenue, the evil must be ten-fold for a malpractice lawyer to take 33 1/3% of revenue! If malpractice fees were capped at the profit margins of insurance companies, the cost savings to our system would be enormous. By the way, America has 3-9x the per capita lawyers of any other advanced Western country and I don’t hear anyone suggesting that we spend too much on legal fees. That is not to say that patients are not harmed by negligent care. Health care is fundamentally a human endeavor and therefore by definition imperfect. I am intrigued by proposals to establish a pool of funds that would be administered by legal and medical experts, not by the current jury system, which at times represents a lottery.

Where do they fall short? Won't they force everyone into inferior plans?

"The administration and congressional leaders have learned from the past, when fears (warranted or not) of taking away people's current plans sank reform efforts. We all remember Harry and Louise, right? Under the current proposals, most people who are happy with their current job-based insurance of Medicare could keep what they have. The government would define a minimum package of benefits, so that everyone would have at least basic services covered and be caught 'under-insured' when the hospital bill comes. “What’s new in the plan is this: ‘insurance exchanges’ where people can more easily compare and buy plans, and a possible new public plan to compete with the private options. They’d be available for people and businesses who don’t have (or can’t get) coverage, or can barely afford what they currently have.”



As a recent IBD editorial noted that on page 16 of the 1,018 page (!) House proposal:

“Under the Orwellian header of "Protecting The Choice To Keep Current Coverage," the "Limitation On New Enrollment" section of the bill clearly states:

"Except as provided in this paragraph, the individual health insurance issuer offering such coverage does not enroll any individual in such coverage if the first effective date of coverage is on or after the first day" of the year the legislation becomes law.

So we can all keep our coverage, just as promised — with, of course, exceptions: Those who currently have private individual coverage won't be able to change it. Nor will those who leave a company to work for themselves be free to buy individual plans from private carriers.”


Your commentary also demonstrates the common misconception that lack of health insurance precludes you from receiving medical care. If you are a drug addled, uninsured member of Al-Quaeda, in this country illegally to perform an act of mass murder and present with a medical problem to the emergency room, you will be treated. Indeed the government mandates the treatment.

Can government possibly offer a plan that is popular and efficient?

“Medicare, which covers some 44 million elderly and disabled Americans, is both. Basically a ‘single-payer system,’ Medicare’s been more successful than private insurers in reining in costs and maintaining access to doctors.”



Actually the federal government acknowledges that Medicare spending has consistently increased at a faster rate that the costs of private insurance. This despite the fact the Medicare does not cover the costs of services rendered. Ironically, this is forcing an increasing number of physicians to no longer treat Medicare patients in their practice.

But doesn’t our system work better than nationalized systems in Canada and England?

“Chronically ill patients in the U.S. are more likely to forgo care because of costs and experience more errors and inefficient, poorly organized care than adults in other Western nations, including Canada and Britain. Besides, our current system has de facto rationing, based on who can afford insurance, who gets left out due to pre-existing conditions, and what services the insurance companies decide they’ll cover.”



The vast majority (~80%) of Americans are pleased with their healthcare. As far as the efficiency of these government run plans, both Britain and Canada report waiting lists in the hundreds of thousands for routine operations. Every day my practice sees Canadian patients who cross the border to receive their care in a timely fashion. The Canadian system would have imploded years ago if the vast majority of Canadians did not live within 100 miles of the US border with easy access to our system. The British National Health Service (NHS) is the 3rd largest employer in the world (trailing only the Chinese Red Army and Indian Rail Service) and the largest in the Eurozone. The NHS administers to a population of 61 million. How many people will it take to administer a single-payer system in this country? Ironically, in a tacit admission of inefficiency, our government farms out the actual administration of Medicare and Medicaid to the 'evil' insurance companies. Why? Because even the government realizes that they are more efficient.


As to rationing, I will quote Mark Steyn:


"Smokers in Manchester, England have been refused treatment for heart disease and the obese in Suffolk have been told they’re ineligible for hip and knee replacements. Patricia Hewitt, the former NHS Secretary says there’s nothing wrong with the state forbidding treatment on the basis of ‘lifestyle choices’. And apparently the ‘pro-choice’ types who jump up and down in the street demanding that you keep your rosaries off their ovaries are entirely relaxed about the government getting it bureaucratics all over your lymphatics.”

On the flip side, what’s the most effective (and truthful) criticism of the current legislation made by its opponents?

“Expanding coverage on this level is expensive — upward of $1 trillion over 10 years — and there’s disagreement even among reform supporters about how to pay for it. All of the options — tax increases, spending cuts, etc. — are politically unpopular. (Interestingly, the same critics who argue that the plan is too expensive reject the provisions that are most likely to reduce costs, like a public plan competing with private insurance.)”


Given the chronic cost underestimates of Medicare/Medicaid, does anyone really believe that it will 'only' cost $1 trillion over 10 years. The reason critics argue about the wisdom of the so called "public option" is that current public plans already, by the government's own admission, fail to cover the cost of services rendered. Given the government's ability to tax and print money, opponents of the public option are rightly concerned that the government option will continue to engage in predatory pricing that raises the costs of private plans and forces people into the public option.

Ultimately, my major problem with ‘ObamaCare’ is philosophical. As with all systems that promise utopia (universal coverage, increased quality and decreased cost), the House proposal represents the imposition of a moral construct with the implicit understanding that this will improve the individual. As with any utopian (or statist) solution, it is well-intentioned. However, experience tells us that these intentions do not translate well into reality. It is a system that is primarily concerned with dividing the pie rather growing the pie. Another flaw inherent in such a statist solution is as Margaret Thatcher quipped “The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples’ money to spend.”

President Obama claims that health care is a ‘right’. I disagree. “Observe that all legitimate rights have one thing in common: they are rights to action, not to rewards from other people. The American rights impose no obligations on other people, merely the negative obligation to leave you alone. The system guarantees you the chance to work for what you want-not to be given it without effort by somebody else.” I believe this is the great and liberating insight of so-called democratic capitalism. After all, you can have food, shelter and health care and still be a slave. This freedom is not simply pursuit of material wealth; it is the freedom to pursue whatever fulfills your soul. For some it is material good, others may choose to work at a non-profit or become a community organizer. In a sense, this is the ultimate fulfillment of the Judeo-Christian responsibility to love your neighbor as yourself.

While a democratic capitalist system does not impose a top down moral structure ,it paradoxically yields moral fruit for the society as a whole. As De Tocqueville observed “Providence has given to each individual, whoever he may be, the degree of reason necessary for him to be able to direct himself in things that interest him exclusively…Extended to the entirety of the nation, it becomes the dogma of the sovereignty of the people.” As Jacques Maritain noted “At least as regards the essentials, their souls and vital energy, their dreams, their everyday effort, their idealism and generosity, were running against the grain of the inner logic of the superimposed structure. They were freedom-loving and mankind-loving people, people clinging to the importance of ethical standards, anxious to save the world, the most humane and the least materialist among modern peoples which had reached the industrial stage.”


To summarize I will quote at length from the great Mark Steyn:


“Government-directed health care is a profound assault on the concept of citizenship. In a nanny state, big government becomes a kind of religion: the church as state…It deforms national politics very quickly…Why is the cost of my health care Barack Obama’s business? When he mused recently as to whether his dying grandmother had really needed her hip replacement, he gave the game away: Right now, if Gran’ma decides she doesn’t need the hip, that’s her business. Under a government system, it’s the state’s business – and they have to ‘allocate’ ‘resources’ and frankly at your age your body’s not worth allocating to. What’s so moral about relieving the citizen of responsibility for his own heath care? If free citizens of the wealthiest societies in human history are not prepared to make provision for their own health, what other core responsibilities of functioning adulthood are they likely to forgo? You’d be surprised how quickly the ‘right’ to health care elides into the government’s right to tell you how to live in order to access that health care. A government-directed medical system can be used to justify almost any restraint on freedom: After all, if the state undertakes to cure you, it surely has an interest in preventing you needing treating in the first place – or declining to treat you if you persist in you deviancy"


He concludes “the acceptance of the principle that individual health is so complex its management can only be outsourced to the state is a concession [that] dramatically advances the statist logic for remorseless encroachments on self-determination. It’s incompatible with a republic of self-governing citizens. As society in which you’re free to choose your cable package, your iTunes downloads and who ululates the best on ‘American Idol’ but in which the government takes care of peripheral stuff like your body is a society no longer truly free.”

I've outlined the basic reforms that would truly improve the system and reduce costs without imposing a government solution. including:

1) Eliminating government insurance mandates
2) Leveling the playing field with respect to tax deductions for purchasing individual insurance plans
3) Enact Medicare reform. This should include the requirement that Medicare/Medicaid and SCHIP pay for all of actual expenses for its enrollees.
4) Enact tort reform
5) Allow tax deductible donations to finance government sponsored health insurance.
6) Allowing insurance portability

Best regards,

Dr. Mark S Zobel

P.S.- Please feel free to forward my email to the White House health care snitch line (flag@whitehouse.gov). (Anyone care to hazard the reaction if the Bush administration had set up a snitch line for people spreading 'disinformation'?)
 
Amir,

Sincerely sorry to hear this story. It's fair to say that very few folks, INCLUDING ALL THE FOLKS WHO VOTED FOR IT, had no idea of the majority of the content of the huge "Obamacare" bill. Many of the provisions of the bill will not take effect until 2013, thereby delaying any voters' ill will over the consequences of the bill and paving the way for re-election of the current president. The recent election, however, in my opinion, has derailed much of the next-term planning that went on.

Those who don't work in medicine would be astonished to see the malpractice insurance premiums paid by their physicians. The high cost of health care in the US is certainly contributed to by the outrageous lawsuits filed every day by those looking for some easy $$$. One recent suit here, settled out of court, involved a young lady whose mother sued because her daughter had a sore throat for a few days after emergency surgery. The daughter came in with acute appendicitis, requiring removal of her appendix urgently. The endotracheal tube that supported her breathing while under anesthetic had irritated her throat. This case probably settled for high 5 or low 6 figures, and had zero base upon which to be considered. It's no wonder that malpractice insurance premiums can run over $1 million / yr. for some physicians.

In support of Dr. Zobel's remarks, our orthopedic surgeons report that many patients in Canada and the UK who need joint replacement surgery wait so long for their surgery that they often develop coexisting joint and muscular problems. It seems that walking around with a crooked leg for a few years actually contributes to a host of other orthopedic imbalances that virtually destroy one's chances of having full rehabilitation following surgery. It's like putting a new foot on a leg that no longer works.

The same type of stories are abundant for other specialties as well.

I'll stop now, or risk getting too political for this forum.

Lee
 
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Frantz: I run a small business. In this economy, a price increase would be suicidal. So in order to manage my cash flow, I look for everyway possible to cut costs. I have my employees work more hours which is cheaper than hiring more staff. I find ways to decrease the costs of my goods. Etc.

Our government has HUGE opportunities to cut expenses but they don't. Fraud, corruption, excessive salaries, bloated organizations, inefficient operations are all well documented. Unnecessary organizations (e.g. Maybe the IRS)

Talk to me about tax increases when REAL expenses are cut.
 

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