Endgame pre-power or Int recommendations

[Thieliste]

What would you guys recommend for an endgame pre-power combo or uber Integrated with a budget of €50K to €70K to drive a pair of Thiel CS 3.7 ?
Some that i can think of are as follow : Ypsilon PST 100 MK2 + Ypsilon Aelius II , Gryphon Pandora + Gryphon Antileon EVO Stereo, Dagostino Momentum Integrated, T+A PA3100HV + PS3000HV, upcoming Vitus SIA-030.
Please share your experience if you are familiar with some of these components.
Thiel CS 3.7 can be bright in the treble if not paired with the right amp.
Please i don't want to read things like " your budget is overkill for your speakers" thanks!!

Thieliste

 

[DSkip]

Have you considered the MastersounD PF100 and Spettro preamp? Over 100 watts of single ended 845 power with their reference preamplifier.

I've heard the T+A PA3100HV on two different occasions and think its a wonderful integrated amplifier - possibly the best solid state I've heard. If you are a fan of solid state, this could definitely be an end game integrated. Personally, I prefer the MastersounD Evolution 845 over the T+A, but there is absolutely NOTHING wrong with the PA3100HV.

 

[Down Under]

For the Thiel 3.7 I would recommend the Ypsilon specifically because of the treble as you mention.

 

[gian60]

I love CH Precision
So I will try new integrated I1
100 watt 8 ohm and 175 w 4 ohm

 

[GMKF]

What would you guys recommend for an endgame pre-power combo or uber Integrated with a budget of €50K to €70K to drive a pair of Thiel CS 3.7 ?
Some that i can think of are as follow : Ypsilon PST 100 MK2 + Ypsilon Aelius II , Gryphon Pandora + Gryphon Antileon EVO Stereo, Dagostino Momentum Integrated, T+A PA3100HV + PS3000HV, upcoming Vitus SIA-030.
Please share your experience if you are familiar with some of these components.
Thiel CS 3.7 can be bright in the treble if not paired with the right amp.
Please i don't want to read things like " your budget is overkill for your speakers" thanks!!

Thieliste

The T+A Stereo (A 3000 HV) amp with a tube pre-amp (might fix the treble issue) might be your coice. Leaves you room to upgrade with the power-supply.

The midrange stereo vitus amp might also be good choice. (Vitus Audio SS-103 aprox. 40k €)

I don't know if I would reccomend the Ypsilon because of their high-ish output impedance which could cause linearity issues with you "challenging" CS 3.7... I could also be wrong and it a match made in heaven

 

[Anatta]

Luxman M900u or a pair of Bryston 28B3 monos + MSB Reference DAC

 

[Thieliste]

Last year i had a home demo of the Ypsilon separates, sound was phenomenal with my speakers, i also know a guy who purchased Ypsilon pre-power combo to drive his Maggies 20.7
Ypsilon is definitely on my shortlist, so far the only big system that i was able to home demo.

Dskip thanks that looks like a pretty interesting suggestion, MastersounD is completely new to me but there is a distributor in my country so i will check it out.
gian60 CH is probably not a good match for my speakers being already extremely resolving.
Regarding Luxman i don't know what to think of them, last year in Munich i wasn't impressed by the Luxman M900u-C900u combo.
Anyone regarding the Gryphon Pandora-Antileon Evo ?

 

[mullard88]

I remember enjoying Thiel speakers through an all Spectral electronics system.

 

[gian60]

so also Spectral are extremely resolving

 

[jasbirnandra]

I have the complete Ypsilon setup its just musical and fantastic

 

[Thieliste]

I have the complete Ypsilon setup its just musical and fantastic

jasbirnandra what speakers do you drive with your Ypsilon system ?

 

[jasbirnandra]

I drive the ASCENDO from Germany their top of the line M5ST SE with the external crossover

 

[Thieliste]

I drive the ASCENDO from Germany their top of the line M5ST SE with the external crossover

Ok so not tricky to drive for the Aelius monos.

 

[andromedaaudio]

There is no end Game.
Wish it was that easy, lol.
Preference is about it

 

[Thieliste]

Problem with mine is impedance drop down to 2.4 Ohms, sensitivity is quite good with 90 db.

 

[andromedaaudio]

And what if the best Amplifier in the world has Just 50 Watts and cant deliver the current , there Will be no end to the game then.

 

[morricab]

And what if the best Amplifier in the world has Just 50 Watts and cant deliver the current , there Will be no end to the game then.

then you get a speaker that it will drive!

 

[morricab]

Problem with mine is impedance drop down to 2.4 Ohms, sensitivity is quite good with 90 db.

We have found that the 3.7 is not as difficult to drive as many would assume from the impedance curve. We were able to get great sound from a NAT hybrid, KR Audio and Aries Cerat. The Diana Forte with 60 SET watts drives the heck out of them. Some weaker SETs and PP tubes struggled a bit but some did not (like the surprisingly potent Pure Sound A30 and VAC 30/30 MKIII). Ypsilon is probably a good choice and I would even consider the excellent sounding Phaeton integrated before making final decisions.

 

[andromedaaudio]

Haha , and that speaker is a aries cerat Horn off course .

 

[Thieliste]

then you get a speaker that it will drive!

Speakers will not be changed because they are my favorite ones.
The Ypsilon Aelius ll drives them perfectly and with awsome refinement, not sure about the Phaeton.