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Good lord Van halen recordings are awfull. Almost a full bottle of Paul Hobbs Red River does not help. I have the 24 bit HD tracks no less.. 24Bit Led Z is pretty darn good tho..... Guess i should stick to jazz. shame on me but i thanks to Bermester test CD i discovered Hugh Masekela , simply amazing what a. talent.
Time for the last 1/4 bottle... Yeah misspessing in here but i am not in the mood :p
 
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My copy of Van Halen with 'Jump' isn't bad on vinyl. I have another one that is pretty bad, but I can't remember which one because I never listen to it. It probably needs to go into the re-donation pile.

I think Eddie was too anointed by substances to care about sound quality much.
 
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Good lord Van halen recordings are awfull. Almost a full bottle of Paul Hobbs Red River does not help. I have the 24 bit HD tracks no less.. 24Bit Led Z is pretty darn good tho..... Guess i should stick to jazz. shame on me but i thanks to Bermester test CD i discovered Hugh Masekela , simply amazing what a. talent.
Time for the last 1/4 bottle... Yeah misspessing in here but i am not in the mood :p


I rarely drink. But when I do it's usually to excess. Then everything sounds wonderful.

At about 106db in-room volume levels, I think I overloaded the little condensor mic a bit.
 

I rarely drink. But when I do it's usually to excess. Then everything sounds wonderful.

At about 106db in-room volume levels, I think I overloaded the little condensor mic a bit.

Lol that sounded great to me!!
 
Well, from my Extreme experience, that was, well, Extreme (or is that: well Extreme!), I am gonna avoid classic Golden Age/pre digital era recordings on digital, certainly run to the hills (incl with Iron Maiden) on the brutal remasters out there.

Sean Magee took the Rush catalogue, transferred the analog master tapes at Abbey Road to digital 24/96 masters, and produced the worst sonics yet I've heard from the band via streaming.

What is wrong with these guys?
 
Well, from my Extreme experience, that was, well, Extreme (or is that: well Extreme!), I am gonna avoid classic Golden Age/pre digital era recordings on digital, certainly run to the hills (incl with Iron Maiden) on the brutal remasters out there.

Sean Magee took the Rush catalogue, transferred the analog master tapes at Abbey Road to digital 24/96 masters, and produced the worst sonics yet I've heard from the band via streaming.

What is wrong with these guys?

Oh yes Rush is awful , Journey is really awful but I do like the music. Heart And ELP are actually pretty good. I would have thought by now these releases would have been cleaned up. Anyhow no hangover this morning so that’s a plus. I ended the night on hugh masekela stimela, to me fantastic recording and live to boot.
 
The issue is not that they're cleaned up insufficiently, but they're too clean. The remasters are either being EQd too tippy because that's what is considered best for the ear bud brigade, or whomever in the band is signing off on the final master has no high end hearing left.

I mean, what madman thinks Pete Townshend is the right person to have the final say so on The Who catalog?
 
The issue is not that they're cleaned up insufficiently, but they're too clean. The remasters are either being EQd too tippy because that's what is considered best for the ear bud brigade, or whomever in the band is signing off on the final master has no high end hearing left.

I mean, what madman thinks Pete Townshend is the right person to have the final say so on The Who catalog?

To me they sound compressed and recorded in a closet. For me It’s hard to describe, not open, not dynamic and muddled no separation. Sorry I don’t follow you on Pete T?
 
Good lord Van halen recordings are awfull. Almost a full bottle of Paul Hobbs Red River does not help. I have the 24 bit HD tracks no less.. 24Bit Led Z is pretty darn good tho..... Guess i should stick to jazz. shame on me but i thanks to Bermester test CD i discovered Hugh Masekela , simply amazing what a. talent.
Time for the last 1/4 bottle... Yeah misspessing in here but i am not in the mood :p

Try the Beckstoffer Dr. Crane vineyard from Paul Hobbs. The music won’t be any better but you’ll be in a good place.

Agree with you on the terrible Van Halen and Journey digital recordings. Tell you what....Aerosmith and AC/DC sound really good on Qobuz.
 
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To me they sound compressed and recorded in a closet. For me It’s hard to describe, not open, not dynamic and muddled no separation. Sorry I don’t follow you on Pete T?
Pete Townshend is, what, 800 years old. He's already admitted his hearing was destroyed by the insane volumes the band played at in the 60s and early 70s. And I believe he has the final say on Who master sonics.
 
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Try the Beckstoffer Dr. Crane vineyard from Paul Hobbs. The music won’t be any better but you’ll be in a good place.

Agree with you on the terrible Van Halen and Journey digital recordings. Tell you what....Aerosmith and AC/DC sound really good on Qobuz.
What's going on? Appears to be no logic or pattern here.
 

I rarely drink. But when I do it's usually to excess. Then everything sounds wonderful.

At about 106db in-room volume levels, I think I overloaded the little condensor mic a bit.

What's your source? Qobuz? and Mic

That's sounds amazingly good for that volume level. 106 avg db or peak? db-C?
 
What's going on? Appears to be no logic or pattern here.

I can’t explain it but listening to Journey followed by Aerosmith is reveals a huge gap in sound quality
 
Pete Townshend is, what, 800 years old. He's already admitted his hearing was destroyed by the insane volumes the band played at in the 60s and early 70s. And I believe he has the final say on Who master sonics.
Aah I did not know he had final say. I must say quad and Tommy sound better than All of Journey
 
Try the Beckstoffer Dr. Crane vineyard from Paul Hobbs. The music won’t be any better but you’ll be in a good place.
:)
 
What's your source? Qobuz? and Mic

That's sounds amazingly good for that volume level. 106 avg db or peak? db-C?

Thanks, Wil. Source is Redbook CD ripped to SSD and retrieved via USB. Mic is a Shure MV88 condensor stereo mic for iPhones. If I mention db levels I usually imply peak. But Van Halen can be pretty raw stuff so with this cut I definitely implied average. Don't know what db-C is.
 
I made a recording from Qobuz, with the MV88 mic also that sounding pretty good, but at a much lower SPL-- avg low 90's and peaking in high 90's.
For avg 106db avg I would need serious ear protection, or stand outside.
 
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Good lord Van halen recordings are awfull. Almost a full bottle of Paul Hobbs Red River does not help. I have the 24 bit HD tracks no less.. 24Bit Led Z is pretty darn good tho..... Guess i should stick to jazz. shame on me but i thanks to Bermester test CD i discovered Hugh Masekela , simply amazing what a. talent.
Time for the last 1/4 bottle... Yeah misspessing in here but i am not in the mood :p

The trouble isn’t with the recording. It’s with the booze. VH needs high octane juice. Try your luck with Tequila or mezcal next time..... After a half bottle of that, Everything will sound as it should:p
 
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I saw DLR in London w his post-VH band featuring Steve Vai. The guy wasted a whole bottle of Jack Daniels trying to show us how virile he was. Drink it, don't spill it on stage. That's a good drink to try and block out remastering quality to Lol.
 
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To me they sound compressed and recorded in a closet. For me It’s hard to describe, not open, not dynamic and muddled no separation. Sorry I don’t follow you on Pete T?
Listen to a good vinyl pressing of Hemispheres...not bad at all!
 
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