Furutech NCF AC Plugs: Gold vs Rhodium Reviewed!

It is not easy to do this, I have discovered. I had to order Cardas cables with special-order (and less expensive) connectors to avoid rhodium.

Iconoclast Belden BAV power cable connectors do not use any rhodium, Bob Howard reported.

Marty gave me the ingredients for Dave Cahoon to assemble a couple of power cables with rhodium-free Furutech components.
There are lots of top tier cables that don't use Rhodium plated connectors. None of the cables in my system - top tier models from Allnic, Echole, Hemingway Audio, Lessloss, Shunyata, Verastarr, and custom Double Helix came with Rhodium plated connectors.
 
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The issues with rhodium come from unfortunate combinations of rhodium and other materials.

Those who actually try an all-rhodium approach never say the kind of things you guys are saying right now. All rhodium can actually result in a relaxed, lower-fatigue sound.

I've actually solved the kinds of issues you guys are talking about by getting rid of gold. If everyone had all-rhodium plating and you introduced gold as something new, people would see gold the same way you see rhodium.
 
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Throwing in the towel with my GTX-D R NCF outlet plus NCF plate and cover. Same with my DPS 4.1 FI50 NCF R ends.
While the outlet did commendable things (definite lowering of the noise floor) I find myself, along with others on the forum, simply not a fan of Rhodium.

This past week I decided to have one last go at things and yesterday installed the GTX-D Gold outlet. This is not offered in a NCF version so I am obtaining the NCF goodness with the wall plate and outlet cover. The power cable I have on demo for use between the outlet and my DarTZeel amplifier is a SIltech Classic Legend 880 in Silver - which comes default with Furutech Gold plated ends (allowing me to have the same plating material between outlet and cable).

How long is the break in for the Gold version of the GTX-D? After living with the 500 hour break in required from Rhodium (mine now has 700 hours), I truly hope to be told the Gold version does not require that many hours for break in.
 
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Throwing in the towel with my GTX-D R NCF outlet plus NCF plate and cover. Same with my DPS 4.1 FI50 NCF R ends.
While the outlet did commendable things (definite lowering of the noise floor) I find myself, along with others on the forum, simply not a fan of Rhodium.

This past week I decided to have one last go at things and yesterday installed the GTX-D Gold outlet. This is not offered in a NCF version so I am obtaining the NCF goodness with the wall plate and outlet cover. The power cable I have on demo for use between the outlet and my DarTZeel amplifier is a SIltech Classic Legend 880 in Silver - which comes default with Furutech Gold plated ends (allowing me to have the same plating material between outlet and cable).

How long is the break in for the Gold version of the GTX-D? After living with the 500 hour break in required from Rhodium (mine now has 700 hours), I truly hope to be told the Gold version does not require that many hours for break in.
Your experience mirrors mine. I have no Rhodium plating in my system. Note that the other top tier gold plated AC connectors and wall duplexes that are competitive with the Furutech GTX-D Gold are the ETI Legato Gold, which I find to be more neutral than the Furutech but still very musical and natural sounding. I had my Bybee Wire Dark Matter Stealth power conditioner outfitted with both. I get the benefits of NCF (and more) from having the gold plated version of the Furutech Flux 50 NCF on each component. To my ears 300 hours of burn-in was enough for the gold wall duplexes and Flux 50's.
 
I always scratch my head at Rhodium. A poor conductor. But it never seems to tarnish.

I worry about dissimilar metal reaction. It would be more interesting to me to hear sonic perceptions between just the duplexes. I believe the reaction between a gold duplex and a power cable with copper or silver or even Rhodium would be minimal. A different power cord is such a change in and of itself.
 
@Cellcbern thanks for the reply. The GTX-D Gold was installed on Saturday and tonight has 50 hours on it. I am hoping by the end of the week to be able to make some sort of judgement. In the meanwhile I will Google the ETI Legato Gold. There is a Furutech thread on my old Naim forum (I was a 25 year Naim owner) and someone also mentioned a Cardas outlet.

Let's see what happens. The GTX-D R did interesting things in terms of lowering the noise floor, clarity etc. - it was just the tonality seemed a bit "weird" to me.

@Kingrex - its Gregg L here - if you remember we connected via my friend Ben from NZ and you did a small writeup for me about extending my outlets which were stuck in back of my record racks - remember? I would love an explanation on why I am hearing differences between power cables on my DarTZeel gear - would love to understand the technical reasons and the why.

Boy do I miss my Naim days - it was so easy. Just use the cables which came in the box, no fancy interconnects or PC's, and enjoy the music.
 
Hey Gregg. I remember. Hope all is well.
Honestly, Dave who has posted on this thread knows a lot more about cable technology and why they voice different. I have just heard it and accept it so I find any evaluation of a duplex combined with a cable change to have a big unknown variable.

Dave does have a point about mixing Rhodium with other metals as opposed to a loom of Rhodium. That goes back to why I like copper. Copper wire to copper duplex to copper cables. But it does oxidize pretty fast. Thats why I Deoxit all my terminations. Everything. Power, interconnect, speaker, ethernet. I do it all.

I have personally tried very few duplex. I have all my duplex terminated with Hubbell 5362 that are cryo treated. Cost about $75 each. I do have a wattgate that was not much different than my Hubbels, and a Furutech NCF Rhodium that I need to try. One day. My house is upside down.with change so I'm not doing much audio. I hope to have it all settled out in a couple years.
Rex
 
@Kingrex Rex - I have been using Hubbell, and subsequently Cryo’d version, for the past 20 years. Standard operating procedure in Naim world. My change over this year to DarTZeel, after 25 years with Naim, started all this tomfoolery.

When experimenting with these new bits the Hubbell was replaced with the Rhodium Furutech outlet AND a Furutech DPS 4.1 cable with totl Furutech FI-50 NCF Rhodium ends - in other words Rhodium outlet and Rhodium plug - same plating.

I then experimented with the Furutech cable going direct from wall to DarTZeel amp, and then with the Furutech cable going into a Torus, and the DarTZeel plugged into the Hubbell of the Torus. This way was actually better than DarTZeel amp direct to outlet. I surmise the Hubbell of the Torus, and its lack of Rhodium plating, returned things more to normal from a tonality perspective - yet the goodness the Rhodium duplex was giving to the Torus (noise reduction silent background) was able to remain.
 
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@Kingrex Rex - I have been using Hubbell, and subsequently Cryo’d version, for the past 20 years. Standard operating procedure in Naim world. My change over this year to DarTZeel, after 25 years with Naim, started all this tomfoolery.

When experimenting with these new bits the Hubbell was replaced with the Rhodium Furutech outlet AND a Furutech DPS 4.1 cable with totl Furutech FI-50 NCF Rhodium ends - in other words Rhodium outlet and Rhodium plug - same plating.

I then experimented with the Furutech cable going direct from wall to DarTZeel amp, and then with the Furutech cable going into a Torus, and the DarTZeel plugged into the Hubbell of the Torus. This way was actually better than DarTZeel amp direct to outlet. I surmise the Hubbell of the Torus, and its lack of Rhodium plating, returned things more to normal from a tonality perspective - yet the goodness the Rhodium duplex was giving to the Torus (noise reduction silent background) was able to remain.
I had the same result with my dartzeel. I have always been curious about changing a few of the outlets in the Torus. Voids the warranty. But I bet it would play quite well.

I have also been told a more quality power cable to a rack mount Torus improves things too.
 
I agree with @Cellcbern about the ETI Legato Gold. It is a better sounding connector than FI-50 NCF.

For now I am more interested in opinions on the Duplex outlet as that is what I am tackling at the moment.
Any experience between the Furutech GTX-D Rhodium vs. ETI Legato Gold outlet?
 
I haven’t tried the ETI Legato outlets. They weren’t available the last time I was buying outlets. The only outlets I’ve used are Oyaide R1 and the GTX-D Rhodium NCF, each with the matching aluminum housing and graphite cover. The two sound totally different. If you like one, you won’t like the other. I had the two in adjoining outlets in my old house and could switch easily between them. The GTX has what I consider a familiar Furutech Rhodium sound—detailed but cool, lean, slightly bright and somewhat analytical or clinical. The R1 is warmer, has softer leading edges on transients, and is more forward and more dynamic. Similar to the Gold Legato connectors versus FI-50 NCF connectors. For my tastes, the R1 is more natural and more musical.

I know @DaveC has very different views of Rhodium. He and I have disagreed on this forum about this in the past, and I have no desire to rehash things again. Suffice it to say each person should make up his or her own mind by actually trying different products. Not everyone agrees that Furutech Rhodium is the way to go.
 
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AC power connectors make a lot more difference than speaker or even interconnects and mixing and matching connectors may or may not work out. I've had customers get rid of the "sound of rhodium" by getting rid of gold plated plugs or receptacles because they were combining gold and rhodium plated connectors. If you use all rhodium with pure copper this just isn't an issue, but like anything else that reduces warmth and increases clarity you will notice imperfections more, both on recordings and in your system. It's typical to blame the change you made that reduces warmth for this, but it's not usually the case. Some people also just prefer a warmer sound even if it does reduce resolution, which is fine but it's also just a personal preference and isn't better outside of being better for them.

I just used an ETI Legato for a custom cable and was disappointed, the wire clamps have a plastic plate in front of them with tiny little holes to poke wire through, i had to remove it and enlarge the holes, and the wire clamps under the plate were not as robust as I'd like. Also, the strain relief is only good for a narrow range of diameters.

I agree with @Cellcbern about the ETI Legato Gold. It is a better sounding connector than FI-50 NCF.

I'm not sure how you can even compare them they are so different, and the context in which they are used should be very different too... again, the receptacle used is just as important as the plug so you can't just make that judgement without using matching receptacles. I think gold plating adds a warmth and sameness to the music that compromises fidelity, for that reason I think it's the worst choice possible. I'd take unplated copper or even bronze over a gold plated AC power connector anytime. Rhodium plating on pure copper adds much less of it's own character vs gold and doesn't reduce resolution by adding warmth, so I think it's far more neutral overall. It's also very hard and durable vs gold and doesn't require a base plating to keep it from sublimating. Gold plating requires a base of nickel, otherwise it won't be durable, and even then it's very soft.

I know @DaveC has very different views of Rhodium. He and I have disagreed on this forum about this in the past, and I have no desire to rehash things again. Suffice it to say each person should make up his or her own mind by actually trying different products. Not everyone agrees that Furutech Rhodium is the way to go.

Sure, not everyone agrees on literally anything wrt audio systems.

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Also, for those using Hubbel and other "hospital grade" receptacles, at best they scratch the electrical contacts on male plugs and at worst they go right through the plating and put a big gauge into the contacts.
 
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AC power connectors make a lot more difference than speaker or even interconnects and mixing and matching connectors may or may not work out. I've had customers get rid of the "sound of rhodium" by getting rid of gold plated plugs or receptacles because they were combining gold and rhodium plated connectors. If you use all rhodium with pure copper this just isn't an issue, but like anything else that reduces warmth and increases clarity you will notice imperfections more, both on recordings and in your system. It's typical to blame the change you made that reduces warmth for this, but it's not usually the case. Some people also just prefer a warmer sound even if it does reduce resolution, which is fine but it's also just a personal preference and isn't better outside of being better for them.

I just used an ETI Legato for a custom cable and was disappointed, the wire clamps have a plastic plate in front of them with tiny little holes to poke wire through, i had to remove it and enlarge the holes, and the wire clamps under the plate were not as robust as I'd like. Also, the strain relief is only good for a narrow range of diameters.



I'm not sure how you can even compare them they are so different, and the context in which they are used should be very different too... again, the receptacle used is just as important as the plug so you can't just make that judgement without using matching receptacles. I think gold plating adds a warmth and sameness to the music that compromises fidelity, for that reason I think it's the worst choice possible. I'd take unplated copper or even bronze over a gold plated AC power connector anytime. Rhodium plating on pure copper adds much less of it's own character vs gold and doesn't reduce resolution by adding warmth, so I think it's far more neutral overall. It's also very hard and durable vs gold and doesn't require a base plating to keep it from sublimating. Gold plating requires a base of nickel, otherwise it won't be durable, and even then it's very soft.



Sure, not everyone agrees on literally anything wrt audio systems.

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Also, for those using Hubbel and other "hospital grade" receptacles, at best they scratch the electrical contacts on male plugs and at worst they go right through the plating and put a big gauge into the contacts.

Thank you for the comments. Here is what I am finding.

Before replying it may be beneficial to list my system - DarTZeel pre + amp, dCS Rossini APEX, Stenheim 5SE, Siltech 680 speaker cable, Siltech 40th anniversary XLR interconnect. Dedicated home run line into a dedicated listening room. This new system replaced a previous 25 year Naim 552/500 DR system with Cryo’d Hubbell outlet (Hubbell standard operating procedure for Naim USA owners).

In terms of the effects of Rhodium and mismatching plating materials - not so in my scenario. At the time I installed the GTX-D R I also obtained a Furutech DPS 4.1 FI-50 NCF R plug and iec cable. Rhodium with Rhodium. I allowed the GTX-D R to get 350 hours before really passing judgement - it ultimately had 700 hours when I pulled it out. Using the Furutech 4.1 power cable direct from wall to DarTZeel amp was not pleasing. Running the 4.1 from GTX-D into a Torus RM20 and then using a Power cable from the Hubbells of the Torus to the DarTZeel was better tonality wise. Some of what I did not like about the Rhodium “sound” was removed

You wrote:
“I think gold plating adds a warmth and sameness to the music that compromises fidelity, for that reason I think it's the worst choice possible. I'd take unplated copper or even bronze over a gold plated AC power connector anytime.”

So does this mean you do not like the Furutech GTX-D Gold plated outlet? Does it not fall into the “worst choice possible” category for you by virtue of the fact it is gold plated? Just curious as this outlet is now my Hail Mary before I abandon Furutech outlets. While it is not available in a NCF version, I hope I am getting some of the NCF goodness by using the NCF wall plate and outlet cover

Likewise and continuing:
“I'd take unplated copper or even bronze over a gold plated AC power connector anytime.”

Can I take this to mean I would be better off returning to my old Hubbell or even a Shunyata CopperCon (which is a rebranded Hubbell) outlet? What about my Siltech power cables I now have in - 880 Classic Legend Silver which come from the factory by default with Furutech gold plated plug and iec?

Hopefully these two points above do not imply the only worthy outlet to consider is the GTX-D Rhodium or bust? I hope not. The verdict is still out on the GTX-D Gold I am testing as it only has 75 hours on it. I can detect, however, a case may be made for some of what you state gold does, however what is one to do if they are not happy with the “sound” of Rhodium which several do not like? I liked the reduced noise floor and increased resolution from Rhodium. I did not like the change in tonality and increased leanness (reduced warmth) it gave me.
 

Platings are there to protect the conductor from corrosion. Typical platings are .0005" to. 010" thickness.

Even if the plating has 10% of the conductivity of copper, let's assume the contact area is the same as the cross sectional area of a 12g copper wire. The resistance of a 12 gauge copper wire is approximately 1.588 ohms per 1000 feet.

So that's .00158 ohms/ft or .000132 ohm/in or .00000132 ohms per .010". So a plating with 10% the conductivity of copper would add .0000132 ohms of contact resistance.
 
The only outlets I’ve used are Oyaide R1 and the GTX-D Rhodium NCF, each with the matching aluminum housing and graphite cover. The two sound totally different. If you like one, you won’t like the other. I had the two in adjoining outlets in my old house and could switch easily between them. The GTX has what I consider a familiar Furutech Rhodium sound—detailed but cool, lean, slightly bright and somewhat analytical or clinical. The R1 is warmer, has softer leading edges in transients, and is more forward and more dynamic.

Interesting
Someone (a dealer) replied to me that the R1 was a tad darker sounding than the GTX Gold. If this is the case then it would be something I would not consider. Have you heard the GTX Gold?
 
Platings are there to protect the conductor from corrosion. Typical platings are .0005" to. 010" thickness.

Even if the plating has 10% of the conductivity of copper, let's assume the contact area is the same as the cross sectional area of a 12g copper wire. The resistance of a 12 gauge copper wire is approximately 1.588 ohms per 1000 feet.

So that's .00158 ohms/ft or .000132 ohm/in or .00000132 ohms per .010". So a plating with 10% the conductivity of copper would add .0000132 ohms of contact resistance.
Okay.
 
Thank you for the comments. Here is what I am finding.

Before replying it may be beneficial to list my system - DarTZeel pre + amp, dCS Rossini APEX, Stenheim 5SE, Siltech 680 speaker cable, Siltech 40th anniversary XLR interconnect. Dedicated home run line into a dedicated listening room. This new system replaced a previous 25 year Naim 552/500 DR system with Cryo’d Hubbell outlet (Hubbell standard operating procedure for Naim USA owners).

In terms of the effects of Rhodium and mismatching plating materials - not so in my scenario. At the time I installed the GTX-D R I also obtained a Furutech DPS 4.1 FI-50 NCF R plug and iec cable. Rhodium with Rhodium. I allowed the GTX-D R to get 350 hours before really passing judgement - it ultimately had 700 hours when I pulled it out. Using the Furutech 4.1 power cable direct from wall to DarTZeel amp was not pleasing. Running the 4.1 from GTX-D into a Torus RM20 and then using a Power cable from the Hubbells of the Torus to the DarTZeel was better tonality wise. Some of what I did not like about the Rhodium “sound” was removed

You wrote:
“I think gold plating adds a warmth and sameness to the music that compromises fidelity, for that reason I think it's the worst choice possible. I'd take unplated copper or even bronze over a gold plated AC power connector anytime.”

So does this mean you do not like the Furutech GTX-D Gold plated outlet? Does it not fall into the “worst choice possible” category for you by virtue of the fact it is gold plated? Just curious as this outlet is now my Hail Mary before I abandon Furutech outlets. While it is not available in a NCF version, I hope I am getting some of the NCF goodness by using the NCF wall plate and outlet cover

Likewise and continuing:
“I'd take unplated copper or even bronze over a gold plated AC power connector anytime.”

Can I take this to mean I would be better off returning to my old Hubbell or even a Shunyata CopperCon (which is a rebranded Hubbell) outlet? What about my Siltech power cables I now have in - 880 Classic Legend Silver which come from the factory by default with Furutech gold plated plug and iec?

Hopefully these two points above do not imply the only worthy outlet to consider is the GTX-D Rhodium or bust? I hope not. The verdict is still out on the GTX-D Gold I am testing as it only has 75 hours on it. I can detect, however, a case may be made for some of what you state gold does, however what is one to do if they are not happy with the “sound” of Rhodium which several do not like? I liked the reduced noise floor and increased resolution from Rhodium. I did not like the change in tonality and increased leanness (reduced warmth) it gave me.

The Torus removed some noise that you attributed to the sound of rhodium. This is what happened when Furutech NCF came out, the previous non-NCF parts were often exactly the same and I compared a lot of NCF parts to their otherwise identical predecessors. NCF does measurably reduce noise, and the NCF parts got rid of a glassy, bright sound that most people attributed to rhodium, but the electrical contacts were exactly the same. So it was noise, not rhodium, that was the source of the glassy, bright sound. The noise was not recognizable with gold plated parts because gold smoothed out the effects of the noise.

Also, I think the reduced noise floor you noticed was a result of NCF material and not rhodium. If you end up preferring gold, Furutech does make one plug, the FI-46G, with NCF material, but I'm not sure they make any other gold plated NCF parts. They do make some NCF parts that have no electrical contacts like the lifters, braces, and outlet covers too. These will all contribute to a reduced noise floor.

Personally, I do not like gold plating because it reduces resolution and adds a noticeable warmth to the sound. Warmth is good to a degree, but it matters how it's achieved and I think with gold plating it has more of a tradeoff vs warmth from other sources, like vacuum tubes. This is especially true with AC power, although the effect is also very noticeable with interconnects and somewhat less noticeable with speaker level connectors.

In general, the result of AC power gear seems more complex and less predictable than other aspects of a system. If you add in active filtering it can get really complex with interactions between reactive components in the filters and the power supplies. Therefore, I think AC power is one area we have to be careful with, it's really hard to pin down the cause of what we hear. It's also why some of the most popular distributors are passive. Active can work well, especially when you have dirty AC power like at an audio show, but it's always a double-edged sword.

There aren't a lot of companies who make a full array of AC power parts designed to all work together. Furutech does, and for me and my preferences, I think Furutech NCF AC power products are as good as it gets. It's not the only way to go, but mixing and matching different brands who use all different materials may or may not produce excellent results. It's very likely there will be a lot of trial and error involved. I think the big issue is NCF parts are not warm, and it's really as simple as that. In cables, it's the hardest thing to account for, as the preference for warmth varies so much from person to person and system to system. When you remove warmth, it's also very common for that to reveal some aspect of the sound you don't like, which could be from anything including the recording itself, but it's most common to blame whatever part was inserted for testing that isn't as warm as the part it replaced.
 
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Interesting
Someone (a dealer) replied to me that the R1 was a tad darker sounding than the GTX Gold. If this is the case then it would be something I would not consider. Have you heard the GTX Gold?
I have not heard the GTX Gold. However, I can see how someone could describe the R1 as dark sounding, but I don't know how it would compare to the GTX Gold. I do know how it compares to the GTX Rhodium NCF.

One practical consideration with the R1 is that it grips the AC plugs very tightly. I mean VERY tightly. For that reason I only use the R1 on an outlet where I hardly ever unplug the power cords.
 

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