Most effective demo sound track ever

[Imperial]

What is the most effective demo track ever.
The one that has achieved simply most sales in total, of any kind of component, or part.

Once this track is used, the sale is most likely to happen.

What do you think?

I think it is Yello - electrified II
After that I think it is Elvis Presley - Fever.
Then I think it is Rage against the machine…killing in the name of

And no I don’t think Keith don’t go- that far for sales…
I ask because some demo tracks or songs must have the opposite effect also. You dont want to play it…

What do you think it is? 3 candidates please..

 

[DasguteOhr]

Dave Brubeck-Take five
Yello -The Race
Dire Straits-The latest trick i love more "ride across the river" from this lp
Today
Dominique Fils-Aimé-Birds
For me, the most played songs at trade fairs and in shops over the years in germany. I have no idea whether this led to more sales

 

[Audiohertz2]

The really good demo tracks cant be played by 95% of current systems ...

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[Mike Lavigne]

i think there is an inherent conflict between the idea of "most EFFECTIVE demo track" and "most SALES" of a demo track. however; it seems like your aim is what demo track is the most popular. get's the most use. thinking about that makes my mind numb.

i'll come at this from another perspective. over the last 20 years, the track that i play to visitors that get's cited the most, as blowing their minds for being a live event right here right now is easily the 45rpm version of "Georgia" off the Ben Webster "Live at the Renaissance". played at Warp 11.

great live recording, great performance, and the media and system take full advantage. shows off all the attributes of the Big Rig. it has sparkle, tone, astonishing dynamics, and flow. the group just clicks. the live jazz club venue ambience lays itself out. and the supporting players are top notch. Ben's opening flourish is fully life like in the room; the power, liquidity, energy of the horn just perfect. at about 1 minute in, the drum whack can hit the low 200's on dart 468 'peak' RMS read out. THAT get's everyone's full attention. zero smear on that peak.

if you cannot play this at 'live' levels then don't bother as a demo track. it's a nice cut that sounds good. but at "live" levels (if you have the right tool for that) it transforms into a monster.

frigg'n effective for sure.

plenty of others to choose from. but pretty much this one captures everyone every time. and i rarely hear it at audio shows. and never, ever, like in my room.

 

[SoundMann]

i'll come at this from another perspective. over the last 20 years, the track that i play to visitors that get's cited the most, as blowing their minds for being a live event right here right now is easily the 45rpm version of "Georgia" off the Ben Webster "Live at the Renaissance". played at Warp 11.

great live recording, great performance, and the media and system take full advantage. shows off all the attributes of the Big Rig. it has sparkle, tone, astonishing dynamics, and flow. the group just clicks and flows. at about 1 minute in the drum whack can hit the low 200's on dart 468 'peak' RMS read out. THAT get's everyone's full attention.

frigg'n effective for sure.

plenty of others to choose from. but pretty much this one captures everyone every time. and i rarely hear it at audio shows.

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Is this pressing completely analog, and where is the best place to purchase it?

 

[Mike Lavigne]

Is this pressing completely analog, and where is the best place to purchase it?

yes; it is completely analog. did not see any new of the 45rpm version, but here are a number of used ones. plenty of new 33rpm versions out there to find.

https://www.discogs.com/sell/release/3917311?ev=rb

 

[Another Johnson]

As a couple of posters above have alluded to, the rational or irrational response to a demo track is not independent of the system, room, or listener. A universally stunning demo track does not exist.

I’m always looking for the next great piece of music, and then I like to explore how different components present it to MY ears.

Demo tracks come and go.

 

[puroagave]

yes; it is completely analog. did not see any new of the 45rpm version, but here are a number of used ones. plenty of new 33rpm versions out there to find.

https://www.discogs.com/sell/release/3917311?ev=rb

Chad is reissuing the 33 as part part of the Comtemporary series using the metal work mastered by Bernie way back when. Release date is Sept 13 '24, should be around thirty bucks.

 

[PeterA]

The really good demo tracks cant be played by 95% of current systems ...

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That’s a very interesting comment. What do you think are really good demo tracks and why do you think they cannot be played on 95% of current systems? Do you think they can be played on older systems?

 

[Audiohertz2]

i think there is an inherent conflict between the idea of "most EFFECTIVE demo track" and "most SALES" of a demo track. however; it seems like your aim is what demo track is the most popular. get's the most use. thinking about that makes my mind numb.

i'll come at this from another perspective. over the last 20 years, the track that i play to visitors that get's cited the most, as blowing their minds for being a live event right here right now is easily the 45rpm version of "Georgia" off the Ben Webster "Live at the Renaissance". played at Warp 11.

great live recording, great performance, and the media and system take full advantage. shows off all the attributes of the Big Rig. it has sparkle, tone, astonishing dynamics, and flow. the group just clicks. the live jazz club venue ambience lays itself out. and the supporting players are top notch. Ben's opening flourish is fully life like in the room; the power, liquidity, energy of the horn just perfect. at about 1 minute in, the drum whack can hit the low 200's on dart 468 'peak' RMS read out. THAT get's everyone's full attention. zero smear on that peak.

if you cannot play this at 'live' levels then don't bother as a demo track. it's a nice cut that sounds good. but at "live" levels (if you have the right tool for that) it transforms into a monster.

frigg'n effective for sure.

plenty of others to choose from. but pretty much this one captures everyone every time. and i rarely hear it at audio shows. and never, ever, like in my room.

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Exactly my point , power and size ...

 

[Audiohertz2]

That’s a very interesting comment. What do you think are really good demo tracks and why do you think they cannot be played on 95% of current systems? Do you think they can be played on older systems?

Can be played on any FR capability system with realistic dynamic levels for power and size without compression .

Micro /Macro dynamics with proper scale and ability to breathe and grow like live music, any true SOTA system from any past era can apply ..

 

[Audiohertz2]

yes; it is completely analog. did not see any new of the 45rpm version, but here are a number of used ones. plenty of new 33rpm versions out there to find.

https://www.discogs.com/sell/release/3917311?ev=rb

Do you have both 33/45 to Compare ...?

 

[Audiohertz2]

As a couple of posters above have alluded to, the rational or irrational response to a demo track is not independent of the system, room, or listener. A universally stunning demo track does not exist.

I’m always looking for the next great piece of music, and then I like to explore how different components present it to MY ears.

Demo tracks come and go.

Universal Stunning recordings do exist , but unfortunately not universal stunning systems for playback of such ...

 

[Another Johnson]

Universal Stunning recordings do exist , but unfortunately not universal stunning systems for playback of such ...

I agree on the playback part. I do not agree on the universally stunning recording part, especially when historical and cultural context are considered.

 

[Mike Lavigne]

Do you have both 33/45 to Compare ...?

yes; I have 3. The early AP numbered 33, a test pressing of that one, and an original (from a digital master) Contemporary.

Not done that compare in years. But recall loving the AP 33 years ago when I first played it. it sparkles as a 33.

btw, this Ben Webster is a 1960 recording (Ampex 350 live to 2 track)) that was not released by Contemporary until 1985 (or 1989?) from a digital transfer. then in 1993 it was re-mastered from the original tapes for AP (both analog and digital) by Doug Sax. no accident that it's fantastic.

 

[jazdoc]

I use multiple tracks for evaluation:
1. Greg Kihn "Jeopardy" from Kihnspiracy.
Listen for the bass triplets for bass articulation
2. St. Vincent "Savoir" from MassEducation
Female vocals and acoustic piano
3. Opeth "In My Time of Need" from Damnation, Koch KOC-LP-4577, 2x LP reissue 2008
Drums, especially cymbal resolution
4. Prince "Let's Work" 33 1/3 rpm; DWBS 50028; 12" single
Bass and system drive

 

[PeterA]

Can be played on any FR capability system with realistic dynamic levels for power and size without compression .

Micro /Macro dynamics with proper scale and ability to breathe and grow like live music, any true SOTA system from any past era can apply ..

OK, so you don’t think 95% of current systems meet that standard.

Could you list some of the demo tracks that you have in mind?

 

[PeterA]

Do you have both 33/45 to Compare ...?

I would actually be most curious about how each of the reissues on thick vinyl compare to an original. I understand an original is difficult to impossible to find.

 

[Mike Lavigne]

I would actually be most curious about how each of the reissues on thick vinyl compare to an original.

the original Contemporary is from a digital master. i do have it, not compared it for a couple of decades, but from memory the AP Doug Sax mastered both 33 and 45 are both much better. as will be the upcoming re-issue IMHO.

the AP 33 and test pressings are 180 gram, my estimate is that the Contemporary is a 150 gram pressing, FWTIW.

I understand an original is difficult to impossible to find.

maybe not.

 

[PeterA]

the original Contemporary is from a digital master. i do have it, not compared it for a couple of decades, but from memory the AP Doug Sax mastered both 33 and 45 are both much better. as will be the upcoming re-issue IMHO.

the AP 33 and test pressings are 180 gram, my estimate is that the Contemporary is a 150 gram pressing, FWTIW.

maybe not.

It’s interesting. With my old system, I preferred remastered thick vinyl. On my new system, I prefer originals. This isn’t the thread to go into the possible reasons, but it’s an interesting topic.