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So,the Bucks will only offer a #2 pick for Kidd. That's not going to get the job done. So how serious were the Bucks?

And they stuck it to their current coach Larry Drew too. Do Nets take Kidd back or punish him and make him sit since they still own his contract? Of course he gets paid but sitting will kill him.
 
So,the Bucks will only offer a #2 pick for Kidd. That's not going to get the job done. So how serious were the Bucks?

And they stuck it to their current coach Larry Drew too. Do Nets take Kidd back or punish him and make him sit since they still own his contract? Of course he gets paid but sitting will kill him.

I'm reading that the Bucks are willing to hire Kidd as coach and not as President of Basketball operations as Kidd wished. Something went into Kidd's head after the hiring of Kerr and Fisher (bigger money). If I were the Nets I'd take the 2nd round pick of the Bucks and get rid of Kidd. I don't think Billy King can work with Kidd after this sort of 'betrayal' or 'coup' as some writers call it.

Inside story:

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/jason-...er-failed-power-play-with-nets-072327526.html
 
Nice one Frantz :D
 
No way in hell Kidd is back. Now wouldn't it be ironical if they rehired Frank? :)
 
Yes, Kidding aside, he's gone. :D This is one of the more bizarre happenings in the NBA, and I think the first of its kind.

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports....econd-round-picks/?ocid=Yahoo&partner=ya5nbcs

Reports: Jason Kidd traded to Bucks in exchange for two second round picks

Kurt Helin

Jun 30, 2014, 11:30 AM EDT

Jason Kidd is now the Milwaukee Bucks’ problem.

Kidd made a power play in Brooklyn — he wanted a raise and team president powers and if he didn’t get it he was going to push to move to Milwaukee where he knows one of the owners — and the Nets called his bluff. You want to leave Brooklyn for Milwaukee, go for it.

Kidd and the Bucks owners (without the GM involved at first) reached a deal, and Kidd is now going to coach the Bucks next season. The only question was compensation and the Nets will get two second round picks. Marc Stein of ESPN was first with the deal (it has sense been confirmed by multiple others).

Those are 2015 and 2019 second round picks, according to Charles Gardner of the Milwaukee Journal. The Nets had tried to hold out for a first round pick from the Bucks, but Brooklyn blinked first.

The Nets will move quickly to find a new coach. Lionel Hollins is considered the frontrunner but Mark Jackson and George Karl also are in the mix.

Kidd angered a lot of people in the coaching community (and had a lot of people in front offices turned off as well) by going after a job with a sitting coach in Larry Drew. While Kidd is officially only the coach right now pretty much everyone around the league expects him to have GM/team president powers down the line. It’s in his nature to push for it.

But he’s going to find Milwaukee a very different experience — no real veterans on the roster, not an ownership or market that is going to flaunt the salary cap, and not a market you can easily recruit stars to.

Milwaukee is all about player development — they have drafted Jabari Parker, they have John Henson, Giannis Antetokounmpo and Larry Sanders. There are some nice young pieces there that need to be molded, have their skills and mentality sharpened, to be turned into professionals, and they need to be used in thoughtful schemes that put them in a position to succeed.

Kidd has not shown he can do any of that. He has to now.
 
Good riddens! Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
 
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nbc-y...-code--by-taking-bucks-job-142306006-nba.html

Jason Kidd violated 'coaches' code' by taking Bucks job
By NBC Sports 9 hours ago NBC on Yahoo Sports

Yahoo Sports' Adrian Wojnarowski joined The Dan Patrick Show to talk about Jason Kidd's attempt to gain more control in Brooklyn. Ultimately, Kidd ends up in Milwaukee, taking the job already held by Larry Drew -- a major no-no in the coaching community according to Wojnarowski. The pair also discusses possible ways for Mitch Kupchak to save the Lakers, including passing on this summer's big free agent class, and instead building for the future.
 
Free Agents Open Season...Act 1, Scene 1. Melo to Rockets. Harden is Wade, Melo is James (sort of) :D, and Howard is Bosh (who doesn't shoot 3s) :D Hard to imagine how this would succeed.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-b...itch-to-carmelo-anthony-emerge-031450837.html


Details of Houston Rockets' free agent pitch to Carmelo Anthony emerge
Eric Freeman
By Eric Freeman 1 hour ago Ball Don't Lie


On Tuesday, the NBA will change from a slightly ridiculous league of mostly functional basketball competition to an all-out irrational fight for an uncertain future. As quality players under contract morph into prized free agents sure to push a team to a title, general managers and fans consider delusions of grandeur. Everyone gets caught up in the moment, because that's often what's required to land a good player in the first place.
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The Houston Rockets have been very active on the free agent market over the past few summers, with general manager Daryl Morey regularly opening up enough cap room to land one or two players at max-level salaries. Although the Rockets didn't succeed in a major way until nabbing Dwight Howard last summer, they're big players once again with New York Knicks All-Star forward Carmelo Anthony set to visit Houston on the first day of free agency. Jonathan Feigen of the Houston Chronicle has details of their prospective pitch:

The thrust of the presentation will be about the Rockets’ contention that Anthony, a 6-8 forward, would be joining a contender. According to an individual familiar with the plans, they would cite their roster, expected to include every starter off a 54-win team.

They will describe how Anthony, 30, would be used. They will use many of the same representatives — owner Leslie Alexander, CEO Tad Brown, general manager Daryl Morey, coach Kevin McHale, former player Clyde Drexler, trainer Keith Jones and James Harden — as those who landed Howard. Howard will also be a part of the presentation, replacing free agent Chandler Parsons on the welcoming committee.

But the Rockets will hope to use home-court advantage as they could not last season. Howard’s meetings were set up in Los Angeles, with the Rockets contingent making their appeal at a hotel dinner. On Wednesday, Anthony is scheduled to be at Toyota Center where the Rockets plan to pull out all the recruiting stops the $7 million upgrade to the basketball facilities allow. [...]

Anthony planned to begin his tour in Chicago. When he gets to Houston (with a trip to Dallas scheduled for later Wednesday), the Rockets hope to make his visit memorable. As much as the Rockets will emphasize the more sober facts and figures related to team building, they plan to use their extensive collection of gadgetry, from the video boards and sound system in the locker room to the new weight room, video room and player’s lounge in ways they could not last summer when recruiting Howard.

As noted by Feigen in this article, this pitch isn't especially different from how the Rockets sold Howard. In that case, there's something about off about their logic. Anthony would add considerable firepower to Houston, but he doesn't necessarily turn them into an instant title contender. In reviewing this news, Matt Moore of Eye on Basketball correctlly pointed out that the Rockets, already one of the best offensive teams in the NBA, need superior defense to get to a championship level, which isn't exactly Anthony's best area. For that matter, the Rockets' plan for future with Melo appears to include small forward and pending restricted free agent Chandler Parsons, who might be tough to keep without some major moves and/or a considerable luxury tax hit.

In other words, the Rockets are not selling Melo on what the future could legitimately look like so much as what it would appear as in a frictionless world. As the Miami Heat have learned, a collection of superior talent doesn't guarantee eternal championships, both because it requires a ton of hard work and trial-and-error to get just one and because excellent players often get significantly worse as they age. A team of James Harden, Dwight Howard, Chandler Parsons, Carmelo Anthony, and a random friend might sound like it could win every game 140-95, but they would have to decide on an offensive hierarchy, their roles, and defensive rotations, to say nothing of executing well.

Every person in a free-agent pitch and negotiation knows these things to be true, but for some reason this process tends to shunt reason to the periphery. It's about convincing the free agent, not making a logical argument that he's best fit for this particular team. Whether the Rockets provide an accurate picture of their future is beside the point — the goal is to make themselves attractive to Melo. It's part of the business of basketball, but it'd be wrong to act like it has much to do with the realities of what happens on the court.
 
I have a feeling they are eyeing him playing the 4 quite a bit. Something he can do with Howard at 5.
 
I have a feeling they are eyeing him playing the 4 quite a bit. Something he can do with Howard at 5.

Possible Jack. If they can convince Howard to concentrate on both boards and put backs and block shots, Melo can fit right in. For all Melo's criticisms, 27 points a night is not a daily find.
 
A super stretch four that's also a super slasher and spinner. He's always been lazy chasing kick outs. He won't need to at 4. Besides it isn't the nineties anymore. We don't see as many classic bruisin' back to the basket power forwards like Randolph, West and the like these days. Back in the 90's it seemed everybody has somebody WWE ready at 4. With the rules today, I don't see him getting that banged up and getting into foul trouble that often in that position. He'll score by the bucket load just below the elbows. Keep him at 3 against the slower ball pounding teams.
 
And why is Danny Ainge not doing anything? :D


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Clippers, I'm told, believe they have real chance of stealing Paul Pierce away from Nets now that Jason Kidd no longer coaching in Brooklyn
1:12 PM - 1 Jul 2014



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The Lakers registered interest in Carmelo Anthony tonight and will be meeting with him on Thursday, source tells ESPN
12:38 PM - 1 Jul 2014
 
Well, let's see what Ainge does with Rondo.

Am at a complete loss as to why the Bucks wanted Kidd so badly. And second rounders can occasionally hit.
 
Poor Jabari Parker.
 
Fired. That oughta make Kidd real popular among his coaching brethren.

First time for me to hear a coach getting another coach fired, from another team to another team to boot. Well, Kidd did a first of sorts by sending his own handpicked assistant coach Franks to the drawing board, literally, if the not to the drawing board room to make 'reports' - and have the team foot the bill for it.
 

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