@Mikem53 , You are welcome and I think you will be very happy with your XP-12 combined with the wonderful Pass Labs XA25 amplifier. I was one of the first to describe my experiences with the Pass Labs XP-32, PererA followed with a excellent review, but I'm surprised there has not been more people sharing their experience with this fine piece of equipment. It has been a bit over a year since it was introduced, so I'm hoping to see a review by a professional reviewer will show up soon. I see that the latest issue of The Absolute Sound has a full page ad for the XP-32 preamp, so maybe that is an omen a review may be forthcoming.@MAXPWR , Thank you for your detailed description of your pass XP 32 breakin ! Beautiful unit !
I‘m a couple of models below yours, but hopefully will get some of the virtues you are describing as it breaks in..
Has anyone compared XP30 to XP32?
As an aside I recently came across the coda 07x. Someone remarked when comparing it to the XP30 that they found no difference in the sound. That was quite shocking to me given the price difference and the fact the coda is a small thin 11 lb box. But who knows there could have been many other factors at play.
I have not directly compare the XP 30 to the XP 32. However I have had them both in my system at different times. I directly compared my XP 20 to a friends XP 30 in my system. My impression was the XP 30 was warmer and only slightly lower in noise. The resolution was slightly better.
Over time I replaced the XP20 with the XP 22. It was only a minor upgrade. But then I brought in the XP 32 and Immediately heard a significant improvement. It retained the neutral tonal balance and had a significantly lower noise floor.
The result was much improved resolution, fewer colorations, and more natural sound. The XP 32 is the best preamplifier I’ve heard in my system.
‘organic, musical sounding’?Have you compared the XP32 to any organic, musical sounding tube Pres such as Arc ref 6 or 6SE, VAC renissance mk 5, sig mk2 se ? etc
I think he’s saying tubes Bud ... personally I’m thinking OTL or DHT but to each his own. We all travel with our own individual suitcases of audio poison.‘organic, musical sounding’?
Have you compared anything to the XP32, or is that considered a category outside of organic/musical ?Have you compared the XP32 to any organic, musical sounding tube Pres such as Arc ref 6 or 6SE, VAC renissance mk 5, sig mk2 se ? etc
Have you compared the XP32 to any organic, musical sounding tube Pres such as Arc ref 6 or 6SE, VAC renissance mk 5, sig mk2 se ? etc
Here is a comparison to an ARC REF 6 on the Audionirvana forum. Check out the first post, which may answer your question.Have you compared the XP32 to any organic, musical sounding tube Pres such as Arc ref 6 or 6SE, VAC renissance mk 5, sig mk2 se ? etc
Here is a comparison to an ARC REF 6 on the Audionirvana forum. Check out the first post, which may answer your question.
Pass Labs XP-32 - Audionirvana.org
Took delivery of the just released XP-32 preamp a little over a week ago. After getting the XP-22 preamp about a year and a half ago to replace a CJ ET5 and being simply bowled over I couldn’t wait fir the XP-32. Both preamps are my first foray into non tube preamps. The 32 is replacing my ARC...www.audionirvana.org
I am using the XP12, single chassis of the same preamp. I was hesitant to give up my tube Preamp for the reasons you mentioned above, especially when it comes to silky highs and “airy” presentation. I have all these NOS tubes too that I have collected throughout the years.. After living with the XA25 for some time, and realizing how good it was compared to my previous tube amps, I had to give the Pass preamp a trial in my system and see if the Pass synergy and Pre was anything “special”.Thanks that was helpful.
In terms of organic and musical I suppose I mean something that conveys more body to the sound, especially in the midrange. Somewhat more bass emphasis and smooth but not rolled treble extension. Also that effect many tube linestages have of conveying depth and space in the soundstage and around instruments.
I have never heard XP32 myself no. I love my x350.8 and considering pairing it with a pass pre.
Do you find it gives you that rich tubey midrange ? Is it warm sounding or more neutral? Do you leave it on all the time ?I am using the XP12, single chassis of the same preamp. I was hesitant to give up my tube Preamp for the reasons you mentioned above, especially when it comes to silky highs and “airy” presentation. I have all these NOS tubes too that I have collected throughout the years.. After living with the XA25 for some time, and realizing how good it was compared to my previous tube amps, I had to give the Pass preamp a trial in my system and see if the Pass synergy and Pre was anything “special”.
Almost give up on the pre around the first week.. It took forever to break-in and loosen up.. Seriously.. it was a month before I got to hear it open up.. I’m glad I didn’t give up on it as I thought I would, because of my preconceived notion that tubes just sound “better”.
The Pass has all the virtues of tubes, but with more accuracy, pinpoint soundstaging Than I was experiencing with my BAT preamp. Everything seems more realistic but never harsh or edgy.
I do catch Myself listening at louder volumes.. It begs to be turned up as things just sound so good, so clear you don’t realize how loud it can get, so clean.. I’m adjusting to this aspect. It’s worth a try, IME.
More accuracy without any fatigue or hardness.. I started with the XP12, but already have plans to upgrade to the XP22 in the future..
I have an XP-22 with Pass X260.8s. It’s tube like. Absolutely wonderful. I leave the XP-22 on all the time and the amps in standby mode. The XP-32 would definitely be a great upgrade.Do you find it gives you that rich tubey midrange ? Is it warm sounding or more neutral? Do you leave it on all the time ?
I would not label it as tubey or rich. It's more neutral, just to the right of neutral. Everything is well defined with good tonal balance. It's also more of a "you are there" presentation about 6 rows back from stage..Do you find it gives you that rich tubey midrange ? Is it warm sounding or more neutral? Do you leave it on all the time ?