What a junk of babling BS. Sorry for my language, but this is just another hifi component, so what’s the big deal?! Just unpack and lift the the component on to the the rack or whatever… It’s not a piece from outer space!! Just use some real muscle and don’t stand whining, and the job is done in a jiffy… Easy Peasy as One Two Three..!

/ Jk
And now tell Ralph wat we think about his cartridge loading nonsense ! ;)
 
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My wife contends that a 300% pricier component producing a 30% improvement is a sign of 3000% listener insanity.
It's all a matter of where you place the decimal points.
Does she shop for wants? Politely use an analogy back on her. ;-)
 
I don't see why that matters.
At hundreds of pages long the thread gets a bit hard to follow.

However @PeterA captured a lot of it:
I think he means if the edginess is caused by the amplifier or a bad tweeter, or a bad DAC, replacing the preamplifier may not result in a massive improvement.

Determine what the issue is and then address it if you’re looking for ways to improve the performance of your system.

The other part, and being hundreds of pages long…
Shows that equipment in flying through the doors in both directions to solve some problem that cannot even be intimated as to what it is.
It is like throwing spaghetti against the wall and seeing what sticks.
 

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Until today I have had a firm policy that I will not put any WBF member on "ignore." This is because I wanted to be fully aware of all posting going on by everybody. I have now changed my mind on this policy.

One of my mid-year resolutions is that I am done interacting with any person, especially any audiophile, whom I find to be snarky or obnoxious or not a nice person for any reason. If I don't respond to you going forward you may suspect that it probably is because I put you on "ignore."

I have made a wide-ranging decision to focus my time on my friends. Life is too short to deal with as&@oles.
 
Until today I have had a firm policy that I will not put any WBF member on "ignore." This is because I wanted to be fully aware of all posting going on by everybody. I have now changed my mind on this policy.

One of my mid-year resolutions is that I am done interacting with any person, especially any audiophile, whom I find to be snarky or obnoxious or not a nice person for any reason. If I don't respond to you going forward you may suspect that it probably is because I put you on "ignore."

Life is too short to deal with as$@oles.
^That is fine.^
(And I appreciate the explanation.)
For others following the thread though, there does not need to be a polorization between measurements and ears.

People such as @Atmasphere etc are designing gear using science and measurements.

The systems can be a bit more nuanced than just plugging in the various RCAs, and on the cutting edge some equipment can exhibit mechanisms that manifest themselves in less than optimal sound.

Know what is happening and why, is really interesting to me.
Others fine it less interesting or irksome.
That is fine, the world is big enough for everyone.
 
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