Sme 3012 R

I know this old arm is good but I don’t know why David,Rockitman,Tang,Ron,Mike
Use or will use having top tonearm like Sat,EliteAxiom,Black Beauty,Durand

Why 3012 is so special?
I never had and I don’t understand
Only to know for my curiosity
Regards
Gian
 
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Dear @PeterA,

I highly doubt that the aim of the jig you’re using is true precision. In order to align a cartridge precisely with these kinds of indirect alignment devices—simply “ jigs”—everything must be perfect: precisely set, aligned, and accurately machined. But that’s almost never the case. These tools are designed for convenience, not for precision.

I haven’t used the specific one you have, but there’s no need to swim in every sea to know you’ll get wet when you jump in. I’ve used the Graham jig, the incredibly well-made Thales jig, and of course the ubiquitous Technics jig, which is similar. All of these are indirect alignment tools, and none can offer the level of precision that direct alignment methods provide. A two-point protractor or an arc protractor allows for direct alignment, where you can observe the stylus following the arc and make adjustments with the cartridge mounted in the headshell and the headshell mounted on the tonearm.

You can certainly prefer the convenience of jigs over the precision of direct methods—but that’s just the reality of it.

I don’t know about DDK’s level of knowledge, but I doubt it if he presented this jig as a precision alignment tool. Repeatedly referencing him in your posts doesn’t help to convince me otherwise.

This is a two point protractor. I confirm alignment directly after putting on the headshell. I am not telling others or trying to convince them to use it. I am answering questions asked of me.
 
I use SmarTractor UNI DIN and it is easy and very precise

I've used the UNI-Pro for some time have seen the Smartractor, both from the same source. These are single point (rather than two-point or arc) devices that are just as you describe: precise and easy to use. One feature I really like is they provide a pinhead size dimple where the stylus needs to go, There is only one correct spot and you know when you hit it.
 
I highly doubt that the aim of the jig you’re using is true precision. In order to align a cartridge precisely with these kinds of indirect alignment devices—simply “ jigs”—everything must be perfect: precisely set, aligned, and accurately machined. But that’s almost never the case. These tools are designed for convenience, not for precision.

Whatever you think of David's jig, I think the results Peter gets from it (as witnessed in his videos) are excellent.
 
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LMAO :) Is That It ? … How long did it take the brains trust of Yourself and Aucremann to come up with this seminal witty retort stratagem ?!?!


 
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This is a two point protractor. Did you see the photo? And I answered about optimizing set up not just installing an arm. You seem to want to argue.

Anyone knowing about tonearm geometries knows that a generic DB Systems Protrac Cartridge Alignment Protractor should not be used for a fixed angle SME tonearm to carry an accurate optimal alignment. The only parameter you are allowed to change in the SME is the distance between the arm pivot and platter spindle. If you want an accurate optimal protactor we can have it designed for us, but we must choose a type of alignment, please see the picture.

Other people have explained you the compromises of your alignment system, I have little to add.

May be we are missing something, but IMO you systematic behavior to ignore or hide details and just show generic aspects does not allow a proper discussion. a1.jpg
 
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I have used the original Wally Tractor since getting a 3012R.
I find the Wally Tractor easier to use and much more intuitive since they don't rely on a pointer at the pivot point of the tonearm to set overhang. It was very confusing using a tool such as Dr. Feickert or the SMARTractor since the SME moves the base rather than having the traditional slots in the headshell like most other tonearms. Once you use a tool like that and see the precision involved you become more confident in accurately setting up any tonearm.
The fine engraving on that mirrored surface helps eliminate parallax errors and the stylus has spot to know you are "in" rather than hoping you are there with most other smooth surface protractors.

That being said low rider cartridges are difficult to get the cantilever inline to set zenith and not relying on the cartridge body for that, but that is the same for all the other tools except DDK's in this instance. I would rather have the cartridge setup in a "dynamic" fashion where the suspension is under proper load when it settles into the tool with the proper tracking force then trying to account for that cantilever flexion in the other tool.

This is my "preferred" method and some of it my opinion, nothing is absolute and others here may debate it and that is fine.

BTW I got my first 3012R directly from David "DDK"
 
Christ, I've been away from WBF for a while. This thread reminds me why! All this chest puffing is hilarious. Go fight 100 gorillas or something!

Curious that we have tens of threads going on in WBF and you just choose to come to this one where we are simply debating alternative aspects about tonearm alignment, a valid subject that was discussed with some passion along the years since the 60's and still actual, to post an unfriendly comment.

Can we know why this particular discussion puts you away of WBF?
 

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