Sound Quality of new roon versions (builds)

[the sound of Tao]

Two things:
- The core will be the same for all the systems
- I don't have a bathroom system

If pouring money freely down a drain can be a qualification then all of our systems are acting much like bathroom systems

 

[the sound of Tao]

Please update after discovering if 2.0 is passable in your bathroom system.



This is a valuable remark. Not sure if it is possible given how the program is structured. At least not in ways I'd openly divest.

Though I appreciate that digital is still in a period of active improvement. I remain confused by how many here pursue active use of a program that changes so often. There appears to be no systematic regularity.

It’s about priorities. If I was just chasing best sound quality I’d only be pursuing analogue. The reason I am using Roon is that in my experience it is by far the best way to be led to discover music and also the best music performances. If I could afford it I’d have both a vinyl rig and a great record library and a Roon based system for streaming for sure but Roon would still be the fundamental core and compass for my exploration and discovery of music.

 

[rando]

If pouring money freely down a drain can be a qualification then all of our systems are acting much like bathroom systems

The constant amount of comments about crappy roon versions shows no signs of relenting.

It’s about priorities. If I was just chasing best sound quality I’d only be pursuing analogue. The reason I am using Roon is that in my experience it is by far the best way to be led to discover music and also the best music performances. If I could afford it I’d have both a vinyl rig and a great record library and a Roon based system for streaming for sure but Roon would still be the fundamental core and compass for my exploration and discovery of music.

In your case I was observing how possible abstinence from updates is. Your reasoning for continued use is perfectly acceptable if not realistic about where the most enjoyment can be had. Which in many cases is a program that handles any conflicts that arise. Reality of today is that means every permutation of OS policing or backend/UI change on a streaming partner site. Not to mention the amount of hardware compatibility and bug fixes passed on or resolved internally. I think you could be mostly alright for a number of months to a year before quirks crept in. Depending on how tightly associated with web browser security protocol everything is.




@christoph The 'unmentionable act' could apply to idea of setting up a roon core under free trial you could flush out of whatever alternate system it got installed on without impact to your one in situ. Not sure how legal or complicated to maneuver into place that idea is in the EU. In some countries any pre-paid CC with a balance would get the trial copy approved.

 

[heebrog]

I reluctantly upgraded my core to Roon 2.0 when my iPhone automatically updated to 2.0 and I could no longer connect to 1.8 (1105). I use HQP pass through as I need DSP/Upsampling for my speakers. I think there is an improvement in soundstage depth and texture allowing a more immersive and emotional listening experience. My fears and anxiety have been allayed.

 

[christoph]

It’s about priorities. If I was just chasing best sound quality I’d only be pursuing analogue. The reason I am using Roon is that in my experience it is by far the best way to be led to discover music and also the best music performances. If I could afford it I’d have both a vinyl rig and a great record library and a Roon based system for streaming for sure but Roon would still be the fundamental core and compass for my exploration and discovery of music.

Exactly the same for me

 

[shadowlight]

Two things:
- The core will be the same for all the systems
- I don't have a bathroom system

Yet

 

[wil]

I reluctantly upgraded my core to Roon 2.0 when my iPhone automatically updated to 2.0 and I could no longer connect to 1.8 (1105). I use HQP pass through as I need DSP/Upsampling for my speakers. I think there is an improvement in soundstage depth and texture allowing a more immersive and emotional listening experience. My fears and anxiety have been allayed.

I'm trying to upgrade to 2.0 from 1.8, but am stuck ( as shown in screenshot #2). All I know to do is restart the Extreme, but that has no effect. Any suggestions on what to do next?

 

[heebrog]

I'm trying to upgrade to 2.0 from 1.8, but am stuck ( as shown in screenshot #2). All I know to do is restart the Extreme, but that has no effect. Any suggestions on what to do next?

can you connect to the core with another device; say a laptop which hopefully has the 1.8 version app then upgrade the core to 2.0

 

[bryans]

I'm trying to upgrade to 2.0 from 1.8, but am stuck ( as shown in screenshot #2). All I know to do is restart the Extreme, but that has no effect. Any suggestions on what to do next?

Can you put in your IP Address of your Roon Core in your browser. If my memory is correct you can upgrade your Core via the browser. Sorry I'm not home so I going from memory. If this is the case you can upgrade to 2.0. I know when I have a Nucleus I use to reboot it via the browser. If this doesn't work contact Roon.

 

[ihmeyers]

after your prompting I’ve now settled on 2.0 raat…

I apologize in advance for sounding like a dullard. What is 2.0 raat?

I have wanted to use something other than the Roon engine (like Squeezelite) but I couldn't figure out how to install that on my second (Roon Nucleus+ clone). Neither could Lucas D who (tried to help me ) because he couldn't get into the second server's root directory.

I have not updated yet, but I noticed for the past few days Roon Core randomly stops during the day. Might have nothing to do with being on a legacy platform but it makes me more inclined to update.

 

[rando]

I apologize in advance for sounding like a dullard. What is 2.0 raat?

The second coming of Roon Advanced Audio Transport.

I have not updated yet, but I noticed for the past few days Roon Core randomly stops during the day. Might have nothing to do with being on a legacy platform but it makes me more inclined to update.

FYI you are depicting the textbook scenario that has been employed in recent years to force consumers into new products and platforms with no benefit to them. Most notably iPhone updates that considerably alter the processing and functional usage of legacy models.

Not saying that is the case here. Just noting how closely your honest description mirrors this practice.

 

[bryans]

I have not updated yet, but I noticed for the past few days Roon Core randomly stops during the day. Might have nothing to do with being on a legacy platform but it makes me more inclined to update.

I personally don't believe the latest Roon update has anything to do with your issue. Roon has even layed out staying on 1.8 https://community.roonlabs.com/t/roon-1-8-legacy-build-1126-production1x-is-live/213417

 

[wil]

can you connect to the core with another device; say a laptop which hopefully has the 1.8 version app then upgrade the core to 2.0

I can not. I can log onto my Roon account both on my MacBook and my phone, however there is no way to actually open up the player, audio settings, etc.!

But I’ll try the suggestion to type the core IP into my browser.

 

[aLLeARS]

I can not. I can log onto my Roon account both on my MacBook and my phone, however there is no way to actually open up the player, audio settings, etc.!

But I’ll try the suggestion to type the core IP into my browser.

@wil - I had the same issue as you. My controller (Ipad) updated to 2.0 but my core was still on 1.8. Controller could no longer connect with core.
The fix was to go to the App store with my controller and download the legacy 1.8 version. Your tablet needs to be on the same version as your core for them to speak.

 

[christoph]

I apologize in advance for sounding like a dullard. What is 2.0 raat?

raat is roon's own output engine, i.e. roon on it's own, without HQP or squeezelite as output engine

 

[wil]

@wil - I had the same issue as you. My controller (Ipad) updated to 2.0 but my core was still on 1.8. Controller could no longer connect with core.
The fix was to go to the App store with my controller and download the legacy 1.8 version. Your tablet needs to be on the same version as your core for them to speak.

Thanks— easy solution. Roon should correct this pitfall in their upgrade process.

 

[admin1959]

How is V2? Does it sound better than 1.8 970 I am on now?

 

[bryans]

Thanks— easy solution. Roon should correct this pitfall in their upgrade process.

Just click the "update all" and all of your endpoints and core will be upgraded.

 

[engadin]

Roon 2.0.1 is out now.
Problems? Sonic drawbacks?
Or should I go from 2 to 2.0.1?

 

[John T]

Roon 2.0.1 is out now.
Problems? Sonic drawbacks?
Or should I go from 2 to 2.0.1?

2.0 is the latest version. Previous was 1.8. I thought I had it figured out as to not allow automatic updates. Wrong! Sneaky little F@@@ers! It was installed unbeknownst to me, they snuck in while I was asleep! However NO DISCERNABLE difference in SQ...