Sound Quality of new roon versions (builds)
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Republicoftexas69
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So if you are not on the Sense platform, to wit you have to have an Innuos product how would you know????IME Sound quality in roon is tripe.
Republicoftexas69
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Yes but they are way behind in development and implementation. Hardware is weak also. YMMV, IMHO.
i will try cause the last upgrade 1272 ruined the sound and I HAD to come back to Just Euphony + HQPe
Thanks for the comment
I have heard an uptick in some files tonight too. Qobuz - Comcast -Ethernet -Roon on Nucleus -dCS Rossini
I'm listening to Joe Pass Virtuoso 2010 Remaster right now. I listened to this last night. It’s FLAC 44.1kHz 16 bit.
I listen to this several times a month so I’m quite familiar with it. It sounded normal (quite good) last night. Tonight it sounds richer in instrument and artist detail. If you’d not mentioned the update, I’d just have attributed it to “a good night on the Comcast side of my gateway.
I’ve auditioned the Innuos Statement with Sense and as a Roon Core. If you want to hear the Statement running a Roon Core, Paragon Sight and Sound can oblige with a good demo.
What do I think? The Statement as a Roon Core is discernibly different than, say, the order of magnitude less expensive Nucleus, and appears to be more reliable and offer better support. But the Roon interface and features are more transparent and useful for my purposes.
I would not describe Roon or the Nucleus as tripe. It took a good bit of effort to get the Nucleus fully reliable here. If it had continued to be problematic, I would have sprung for the Statement. But it turned out to be unnecessary.
I run HEOS, BluOS, Mosaic Control and Roon as interfaces here, and I am familiar with the Innuos interface. My preference is Roon. I wish that Roon supported Amazon Hi Res too, but for Amazon, I use BluOS or HEOS, depending on which room I’m in.
What do I think? The Statement as a Roon Core is discernibly different than, say, the order of magnitude less expensive Nucleus, and appears to be more reliable and offer better support. But the Roon interface and features are more transparent and useful for my purposes.
I would not describe Roon or the Nucleus as tripe. It took a good bit of effort to get the Nucleus fully reliable here. If it had continued to be problematic, I would have sprung for the Statement. But it turned out to be unnecessary.
I run HEOS, BluOS, Mosaic Control and Roon as interfaces here, and I am familiar with the Innuos interface. My preference is Roon. I wish that Roon supported Amazon Hi Res too, but for Amazon, I use BluOS or HEOS, depending on which room I’m in.
I'm curious, what music management SW do you feel is better from a feature, development, and implementation standpoint?
Republicoftexas69
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I am using an unusual platform which made the uptick very apparent the moment it went in, I had wondered if build 1277 would slip by un-noticed.
Just how I would describe it too. I would also call out improvement in the pitch and weight accuracy of deep bass as well.
~Very nice DAC by the way, I'm a big fan of DCS kit and how they go about developing.
I heard the Innuos Statement using their in house software at Munich a month ago, and can see why you like the sound. Sound quality is so dependant on a precise details of the marriage of hardware and playback software, that you are right to say YMMV (Your Mileage May Vary).
Some mileage here. I have been developing hardware for a long time now, including designing and developing new components where I think they are needed. I'm using a selection of playback software packages which include Roon. Recent experience with Roon is that the latest Roon Server builds are tracking in an extremely good direction with standout SQ headroom to develop with. If course this is with the caveat that to get this it needs to be on the right platform.
I would hang onto to that Roon licence you have for sure, even if your not using it for now
Just installed 1277. Sounds a bit better to me as well...
Republicoftexas69
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Since I do not stream, I never update my ROON beyond 1.7 Build 511. Not any single new version sound better than that.
Everyone has an opinion and that is great. I have never used any Simaudio products so I can't comment on their products. It is funny that Simaudio products are Roon Ready. I guess Simaudio sees some value in Roon.
I've seen this discussion going on here and on other forums for quite some time. On a Grimm MU1 streamer it just doesn't seem to matter, and that's an opinion shared by another MU1 user who has a far better system than mine. (Think "lots of Gryphon product"...)
That said, my MU1 streaming sounded fantastic last night. Not sure if that was due to 1277 or swapping in a different rectifier tube on my DAC a couple nights ago.
That said, my MU1 streaming sounded fantastic last night. Not sure if that was due to 1277 or swapping in a different rectifier tube on my DAC a couple nights ago.
Republicoftexas69
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So is Innuos, Roon ready and a lot of others as Simaudio in not in the server business it would make sense as Roon core is very economical or inexpensive. That is not saying there are not better options or worse. Think I will move along from engaging with you. Enjoy your Roon.
I owned the Innuos Statement and have friends with Innuos products; I've used Sense many times, hence my "IME".
Also, sure, ROON sound quality isn't great, but that wasn't your topic of conversation. I use ROON with HQP, best of both worlds. ;-)
Republicoftexas69
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Elvis has left the building. Roon is Roon, enjoy. No offence sorry for ruffling the proverbial feathers. What is HQP? IMWK
Oh never mind it is just another platform like Tidal or Qobuz. Enjoy
Actually, it‘s nothing like Tidal or Qobuz. It is highly evolved software for upsampling and playing back digital files.
I’m curious how you’ve determined that 1.7 is the best sounding if you’ve never tried any of the numerous newer versions?
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