The only driver the same in the 20.7s compared to the 30.7s is the ribbon tweeter.all other drivers are new and better than 20.7s including the xover.
Different sounding but not really better.Christoph I am just being nice.
Do I really believe that fundamentally the Alsovox design is better?
Well actually I don't. All compromises considered.
Better at least for the fact you can use better amplifiers with the Alsyvox.Different sounding but not really better.
I think that just depends on how you spec your Apogees (if you can talk Graz into doing a neodymium build).Better at least for the fact you can use better amplifiers with the Alsyvox.
Ok, you are talking about Neo-Apogees, which can have highish sensitivity (I heard his Neo-Scintilla, which had 94-95db but with still a low 2.5 ohm impedance ). The strength and rigidity of the frames makes a significant difference in the bass.I think that just depends on how you spec your Apogees (if you can talk Graz into doing a neodymium build).
That's it, really. I strongly believe it's very largely down to construction quality/materials used as I have been a believer in it and direct witness to it over time.
What music do you listen to?I can honestly tell you I get deep and powerful bass on my 30.7s.the big panel is not just for looks.I don’t know what ears you got but it doesn’t sound good. My friends have loved the sound of my Maggie’s and I haven’t heard a better speaker.
I use 30,7 for classical, jazz pure acoustic music and I have a horn system for pop and rock music.in my room they put out deep bass with plenty of power if it’s on the recording.What music do you listen to?
i listen to organ music thru 30.7s and big orchestra music as well.some audiophile recordings contain deep bass.Hmm. None of those genres really have deep bass ime. Definitely no sub-bass
They don’t do sub bass as they go down to 25hz.Hmm. None of those genres really have deep bass ime. Definitely no sub-bass
I have 2 15 inch subs that can do that to.So the 30.7's roll off at 25hz?
My room can be energised by my system's bass at 14hz
No worries. Theres very little music with bass below 25hz.My apologies, i wasn't meaning to belittle your system.
I just don't consider speakers that roll off at 25hz to be full range. It's a philosophical decision made by certain manufacturers resulting in speakers that censor your programme material. I am aware this is a generational issue, but for me this is unacceptable.
The majority of music i buy and listen to, such as deep house, trip hop, drum and bass, are driven by the lower frequencies. The sooner the gatekeepers that dictate 'there is no bass below organ music' shuffle off into retirement the better, as far as i am concerned.
The world has moved on.
Yes agree. I use electrovoice mth1 pro speakers in between two pairs of klipsch la scala speakers with 2 15 inch subwoofers . This system has serious slam and dynamics with very deep and powerful bass.IMHO no full range planar can get anywhere near the dynamics, volume levels and chest thumping bass approached by the best dance club systems.
AG Trios with three bass horns can approach it.
Large Wilson's can do an OK job too. Most people are probably unaware of how loud Wilson's can go without apparent stress.