I would say the point of diminishing returns occurs with the cheapest speaker possible. Iet's say $1. You go from silence, to music. Its downhill from there...
The point of diminishing returns for speakers is...?
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I have not heard the magico M 9 , but looking at the discrepancy i have with reviewers ( wilson for example) i would put always " imo " in between is and better.
Facts dont really exist in reproduced audio
It was at a level beyond Alon just having a good room. There was lifelike detail, perfect soundstaging, and an effortless sound I had never experienced before.
I think the in my opinion is always implied on these posts. That said, I have never heard the Kharmas reproduce sound in the way that the M9s did. By the way, I did not like their custom-built room at the Munich 2018 show either.
It was a large image but the main thing was how realistic it sounded. The Voces 8 track was stunning in particular. The voices layered on top of each other so well yet you could hear the individual members of the chorus distinctly. It genuinely sounded like a live event.
The law of diminishing marginal utility is well established. By definition it is based on individual preferences or value and is not comparable to other individuals thus we all will have a different result. For most of us there's what is often called a sweet spot in a product line. That's where I like to live.
I have heard the exquisite s in the kharma factory / show room several times in NL , also at a dealer in NL years ago .
The kharma room in munich wasn t good in 2023 either
.(Regarding magico probably no M9 in munich 2024 either)
@ It takes dedication to make them sing , but they are a good building block to my ears
I have heard the exquisite s in the kharma factory / show room several times in NL , also at a dealer in NL years ago .
The kharma room in munich wasn t good in 2023 either
(Regarding magico probably no M9 in munich 2024 either)
@ It takes dedication to make them sing , but they are a good building block to my ears
I would love to visit the factory and hear them set up at their best.
Funny, I have probably heard about 8 different models from Magico, NOT including the M9, and there wasn't a single model I liked. Comparative Wilson models sounded much better.
And to that end, hearing all of those, I STILL prefer my system for the most part. It's amazing what you can get with Maggies when you have ample quality power and ample quality subwoofers.
No, my system doesn't make it sound like the performers are in my room. My system makes it sound like I am in the performers room.
And to that end, hearing all of those, I STILL prefer my system for the most part. It's amazing what you can get with Maggies when you have ample quality power and ample quality subwoofers.
No, my system doesn't make it sound like the performers are in my room. My system makes it sound like I am in the performers room.
Hi, Scott and good afternoon to you. First off, let's go back to my original statement. I stated that -
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When you take the entire statement I made in context, without any omissions, this is not a bold statement and I am quite sure that many here at the WBF would tend to agree. Now, if I had stated , "every million dollar plus system I have heard, you could not pay me to listen too"? Yeah, that would be a bold statement. An incorrect one at that, but bold nonetheless.
Splitting hairs is honestly not something I desire to ever get into but I thought I would at least answer your query.
Tom
I think this is where I politely differ with Bruce a bit. While the metrics may show smaller improvements in measurements, the recreation of the event is still making significant improvements. The Magico M9 is sounding significantly better than the M3, even if the measurements show slight improvements, for instance.
Can you tell us with some detail what is your experience with the complete range of Kharma speakers?
Many many occasions staring in 2004 with the exquisite classic on Lamm at the factory/ show room in breda .
Exquisite mini , midi , midi grand plus almost all the lower line models both current and historical , i just had n t heard the veyron series untill this year in munich.
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Im not sure the exquisite classics are very good for bass heavy music like house music they can be a bit bass heavy in general .
But for vocals and classical music they present pnenomenal detail retrieval and coherency all through the mid range up.
But it takes dedication / time to make such speakers sound special
But for vocals and classical music they present pnenomenal detail retrieval and coherency all through the mid range up.
But it takes dedication / time to make such speakers sound special
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