With all due respect and IMHO, I find your view of Bartok's music to be overly presumptuous, myopic and pretentious.
Chacon a son gout
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Why the lack of love for Bartok?
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With all due respect and IMHO, I find your view of Bartok's music to be overly presumptuous, myopic and pretentious.
Chacon a son gout
Oh, but lest we forget his view is the voice of exquisite, tasteful "high culture".
30th of May I went to barbican to watch Julia Fischer do the Beethoven concerto, which was very nice, and then Pagannini second caprice for encore (i usually start my auditions using the second caprice). I vaguely remembered the second half was not something I wanted to watch when I had bought the ticket, but on the day I had forgotten what was on in the second half. The main reason to go for that concert was the Julia Fischer Beethoven.
Both my gf and I thought the second half was awful. Then I looked at the booklet and it said Bartok concerto for Orchestra.
Both my gf and I thought the second half was awful. Then I looked at the booklet and it said Bartok concerto for Orchestra.
Thanks, Roger. I came to the Bay Area for grad school in 1967 and bought a student series for the SFS when Joseph Krips was still the music director. So I am sure I heard and saw your teacher play. A few years later Ozawa was a guest conductor and the SFS hired him, I think, in 1972 as the next Music Director. Boston grabbed him after another 3 or 4 years, but he kept both positions until the late '70's when he went to Boston full time. There are still two or three members of the current orchestra who were hired by Ozawa, none from the Krips era are still around.
Larry
I don't understand this "composer bashing". Can someone please explain why. Seems like this could be WBF's version of "kicking the dog".
One composer I like, which I'm sure many don't, is George Crumb. Try "Haunted Landscapes". Have at it gentlemen.
One composer I like, which I'm sure many don't, is George Crumb. Try "Haunted Landscapes". Have at it gentlemen.
Why? It is to save Western High Civilization from the onslaught of barbaric dissonance and cacophony. It is High Culture against the wannabees. The supreme reign of melody against lower standards.
When a thread is started with the subject why the lack of love for Bartok, what do you expect?
I will risk an explanation. Perhaps Bartok and some other very dynamic and less melodic composers are not too well served by vinyl and excel on digital, sometimes played by young performers that challenge the old masters or those who are considered the "best" performers.
Incorrect. I was referring to Bartok live, and actually, Bartok vinyl is excellent. It is in much better condition than the other originals (possibly because few people play it), and it makes the system sound very impressive with slam bang precision effect. You should really investigate and write, instead of putting forth an incorrect theory because it serves your purpose of incorrectly positioning vinyl with respect to digital
The latter certainly. There are many more recent performers who successfully challenge the old masters. The so-called "golden age" of performers is far over-rated. For example, I love Dorati in many things, but his Haydn Symphonies cycle, which was groundbreaking at its time, had been a favorite of mine for decades and still has to be considered as very good, is in my view eclipsed in most aspects by the cycle with Dennis Russell Davies conducting the Chamber Orchestra Stuttgart, released in 2009. Unfortunately, this cycle is not available on vinyl, and thus by definition cannot be as good
, in spite of what I just said.If Francisco would really dislike vinyl that much, he would not recently have bought a TechDas Air Force One Premium turntable, would he?
I was not addressing your comments, there were much more interesting ones on this subject in this particular WBF thread... Sorry!
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Wrong again, as usual - for this purpose I have two Studer A80's ...
And I always say which I prefer, not which is better.
You will find a few recommended recordings in this link https://www.gramophone.co.uk/feature/top-10-bartok-recordings
I own several of them and I find difficult to pick just one of them. I think I can say that the first one is the most often referred recording.