If it is from Cardas it should not be a problem - they are known to have very low capacitance.
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If it is from Cardas it should not be a problem - they are known to have very low capacitance.
I like to use SET in a bi-amped set-up, with SET limited to handling around 200Hz and above.
I never thought it had anything to do with the interconnect.
Good! If you're going to use an SET that's really the only way to do it.
Its pretty clear its got nothing to do with it; the mismatch between amp and speakers being the far simpler explanation.
To fix it you either need a ZOBEL network as I described or an amp with a much lower output impedance.
The Clarisys midrange ribbon driver is dead flat at 4.0 ohms from 200Hz to 2kHz, rising to 4.7 ohms at 9kHz.
This could explain why, against my presumption, using the 8 ohm output taps actually sounded a little bit brighter and thinner to me than the 4 ohm tap -- if the impedance rise caused the amplifier to deliver more voltage in the upper midrange and above.
I have fancy Duelund CAST Cu/Sn 0.01uF 630VDC capacitors. So all I need is a 10 ohm resistor in series with that and then the series pair connects across the speaker terminals?
Yes and at one point wanted to biamp not sure what happened to that. He is convinced he has to have tubes for midrange. He will stick to that ideal and match tubes to ribbons, like he will to 47 ft single ended interconnects.
You'll need more like about 3.3uf and 5 Ohms if your speaker is nominally 4 Ohms to put you in the right range, assuming the use of the 4 Ohm tap.
Interesting. I forgot about this. Heard you say it in the past. I doubt its playing lower than 50 hertz.
And really, I could shove my speakers against the back wall, or sit in a corner to find fake bass. But I'm focused on Good bass. Not more bad bass.
Volume has nothing to do with Brigjtness or artificial colorations from electronics.
50Hz is too low for almost any SET. 200Hz is much better as I mentioned earlier.
If you want good bass from a tube amp you simply have to use something push-pull. Its much easier to get the inductance to support bass in a PP output transformer since there's no need to cut the core. That is because the current of each power tube conducts in opposite directions through the core, preventing DC saturation. Its a much more elegant and efficient way to go and you get much lower distortion (greater transparency) as a nice side benefit.
There are many reasons SETs went the way decades ago. Best as I can make out people simply don't compare apples to apples when comparing SETs to PP.
Its a bit embarrassing how easy it is to beat up most SETs with a Dynaco ST35 (which is the best sounding of their amps). And its no problem to make a PP amp that sounds better than that.
Ron ought to research "Clarisys with tube amps" and do a tour around to hear the various combo's until he hears one he likes, or realizes it's not going to work......for.....him.
my only exposure to Clarisys was at Axpona 24' and none of those rooms would pass this midrange test for Ron (since they didn't seem to do it for me). one show, three rooms, who knows? just data points.
Clarysis sounded good with CAT in munich, better then Soulution..
Ron has great VTL amps i dont think it gets any better in the tubeworld .
Ron has great VTL amps i dont think it gets any better in the tubeworld .
He bought it after listening to it with CH and digital. That was his only digital audition followed by Todd’s trios which was a digital audition, otherwise he did not audition on digital before.
He bought gryphon as well after audition on Gryphon amps.
But yes, in his place I would tour that speaker to hear the best amp combo I like, start with that at home and then move away from it to what sounds better. I get the itch of trying new stuff though, that goes hand in hand with box swap tendencies. A successful dealer once told me he sells 95% of things without audition, because people like to buy what they haven’t heard due to the mystique/curiosity about that option.
You should PM him, he stopped using them long ago. Am sure he will listen to you if you PM him a few times
Kedar, I continue to be impressed with your recall, reminding us of conditions, and the way things have developed. Thank you for taking notes and reading them later. It grounds the discussion.
It does...
These speakers are fairly easy to drive so there's a pretty wide range of amps out there that would be fine on them.
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