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The Bizet and Elgar CD's are supposedly also going to be released as SACD's sometime; I'd rather wait
Released sometime?? Live a little now. It won't even break the piggy bank.
garylkoh
WBF Technical Expert (Speakers & Audio Equipment)
Many thanks for the heads-up Myles. I grabbed the Doug McLeod and Dick Hyman vinyl to round off my collection.
I have a bunch of the old ones- they were sonically very neutral, not warm, but the better my system has gotten, the better these sound. Are the current ones similar in sonics? Is this still a Keith Johnson? enterprise? I seem to remember that he was behind this, with Spectral gear, etc. I haven't listened to these records in a while; the Three Penny Opera one was great; didn't he do the Nojima Plays Liszt and one other Nojima? I think I might even have some Monk-based stuff, I'm gonna have to dig all these out.
they were recorded digitally at 176.4/24 and transfered to vinyl. i asked jan mancuso about that at the Newport show, suposedly Prof johnson says the vinyl transfer has greater dynamic range (?) and is the format to get. fwiw, i think the doug macloed is spectacular, i do have a soft spot for their early all-analog LPs like three way mirror w/ arito, serendipity and dafos among others.
The Bizet and Elgar CD's are supposedly also going to be released as SACD's sometime; I'd rather wait
you mean HDCD which is available now, prof johnson dislikes DSD and nowadays only records in PCM.
i have a couple HRx discs. the sacd has got to be a concession for those that want that format. what would be the point of a converted pcm recording when the HRx discs exists, thats if you're into computer audio.
Only some RR titles are available on HRx discs, just as only some are SACD. When both are available, the SACD is generally available for about 1/3 of the price and often has multi-channel sound as well.
As far as the Elgar and Bizet recordings to which I referred earlier, I recall RR's own website saying they were coming in SACD, but I could be mistaken...
edit: definitely true for the Elgar. The Bizet isn't yet released, so I don't know for sure, but I suspect it will be true for it as well.
As far as the Elgar and Bizet recordings to which I referred earlier, I recall RR's own website saying they were coming in SACD, but I could be mistaken...
edit: definitely true for the Elgar. The Bizet isn't yet released, so I don't know for sure, but I suspect it will be true for it as well.
Whcih of course makes no sense unless the vinyl pressing is adding euphonic artifacts...
How can euphonics add dynamic range?I think KOJ knows more than a little about his recordings and equipment.
Well. let's see: an LP, which has to go through two more transducer steps to be played on your system than the PCM master from which it is made, or that PCM master itself. Which will sound "better"? If it's the LP, it can only be through added colorations. I think KOJ was misquoted; he was likely referring to comparing the LP to the HDCD CD.
Bruce B
WBF Founding Member, Pro Audio Production Member
KOJ has stated more than a few times that vinyl has a DR of >120dB, which I tend to disagree with. But who am I ???
Well we really don't know what goes on at the digital end do we? That article in Stereophile a while back talked about some digital releases undergoing seven conversions. So how close is that?
That aside I wasn't talking about sounding better; I was simply referring to your statement that colorations increased the dynamic range and was wondering how that happened?
In the same way that conversion to LP increased the dynamic range
For that matter, I'm not sure how the LP could have greater dynamic range than even the HDCD unless there are different masterings.
In the same way that conversion to LP increased the dynamic range
For that matter, I'm not sure how the LP could have greater dynamic range than even the HDCD unless there are different masterings.
Huh how is that possible?
Or the DAC used to drive the vinyl lathe is much better sounding with these recordings than the one you are using at home ...
Audiophiles should be imaginative - we look for an illusion!
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