Munchen High end show 2022

I m going 19 - 22 may to the show in munchen

Who s going?
What brands you wanna hear ??

 

I find it is always funny that the main part of the speaker cable is so thick but the lead ends are so thin. So what all thickness composed of?

Like porn it’s fluff

 

This room was the most sterile sounding at the whole show! My vote for worst expensive room.

Lol.

What is your best horn room i have another day at MOC tomorrow?
I thought viva 1 cessaro 2

 

I have visited the wilson xvx / nagra room.
Bit dissapointing its almost like i hear a tw issue
Rockport ch precision .
almost only talk they increase the feed back and play 10 sec and talk again i need to come back
Please just play more music thank you.
Best sound so far at MOC probably cessaro horns , i liked pilium and the small magicos too

Which Cessaros? The bigger ones or smaller ones with subs?

 

Lol.

What is your best horn room i have another day at MOC tomorrow?
I thought viva 1 cessaro 2

Aries Cerat but both Viva and Cessaro are good

 

Gobel Divin Marquis we’re good with Kronos analog but not very good with Wadax!

 

2nd worst big expensive system at the show…just horrible…

Lol.

My worst $$$ for sound system was the Kharma room with the bigger kharmas and their own amps.
With R koda the small ones sounded nice afaik.
At least a system where i could relax without getting anoyed immediately

MBL which usually takes this prize ime , sounded nice this time i thought
they were well set up.

 

The excesive bass in the stenheim dartzeel room was annoying.
I d like to hear those amps on another speaker in a well set up room

Also i went back to the CH / rockport room and guess what no music just talk.
I ll go back tomorrow one more time and thats it

 

For the top perflormer of the show some more pics.
New gryphon prototype speaker

 

Lol.

What is your best horn room i have another day at MOC tomorrow?
I thought viva 1 cessaro 2

if you have the time,
spice up your listening experiance
Go to „Zeiler“, a small tube amp company.
They Demo their stuff with some original old Tannoy studio speakers, which were used to record and mix Bob Marley and Queen records.
This might give you a „natural“ vintage type of listening start into the day. Close by you can find the Spanish „Admire audio“ and their interpretation of the Western Electric Horn sound.
A nice sounding German Horn speaker can be found in front of MOC/hall4, if you walk a little left the street. Martion (horns), Schick (tonearms) and Consolidated Audio (step ups) do share some rooms in an automotive service building.
In front of MOC the shuttle bus can bring you to Hifi Deluxe, as the JMF 500 Horns from France are the potential final step on this „tour de exotique horn“
Same floor at Hifi Deluxe you can listen to new Gryphon amps, Wadax Dac and Server and the top of the line Spanish Kroma Speakers, also one of the best Demoes in Munich this year.

 

Gobel Divin Marquis we’re good with Kronos analog but not very good with Wadax!

Agree! The Gobel room was very well set up with no bass overhang. Sounded big, balsy and overall very good!

 

Lol.

My worst $$$ for sound system was the Kharma room with the bigger kharmas and their own amps.
With R koda the small ones sounded nice afaik.
At least a system where i could relax without getting anoyed immediately

MBL which usually takes this prize ime , sounded nice this time i thought
they were well set up.

I couldn’t agree more on Kharma.....it was a letdown having had high expectations to begin with. MBL was ok, nothing special in my view.

 

@ Shakti

Funny i found the JMF also quit good sounding.
I already was at hifideluxe if you read back in this thread i ve posted my expiriences.
Indeed the Kroma room was one of the best of the show.
After listening to a lot of other wadax today i think the real star of that room was the gryphon Apex .
Off course Wadax is very good and so are the speakers.

I ll try to visit the rooms you mentioned tomorrow
The biggest challenge tomorrow will be actually listening to the rockport lyras on CH without the demonstrators talking lol.

 

The ones I liked:

I loved the Admire audio room.....
I liked the momentum with the Wilsons......especially for the scale
Goebel was good. Powerful and went down without overhang
The absolare with the Aviors sounded really nice today though I am biased
The thrax room with the 300b amps sounded superb
I loved the darts powering the Stenheim ref
Stein music - the smaller horn speaker was spectacular and so were the big ones
YG summits with the Burmester electronics sounded really nice

The Let down:
Kharma sounded bad....period
Avant-garde even worse. The bass was boomy. Maybe that particular song, but I didn’t like it overall

 

The ones I liked:

I loved the Admire audio room.....
I liked the momentum with the Wilsons......especially for the scale
Goebel was good. Powerful and went down without overhang
The absolare with the Aviors sounded really nice today though I am biased
The thrax room with the 300b amps sounded superb
I loved the darts powering the Stenheim ref
Stein music - the smaller horn speaker was spectacular and so were the big ones
YG summits with the Burmester electronics sounded really nice

The Let down:
Kharma sounded bad....period
Avant-garde even worse. The bass was boomy. Maybe that particular song, but I didn’t like it overall

Have you listened also to the kharmas in the other room with R koda ???
And what was your opinion on wilson XVX Nagra

Ps yez i think the Gobels sounded nice

 

Have you listened also to the kharmas in the other room with R koda ???

I missed that....was that good?

 

I missed that....was that good?

In my opinion it sounded a lot betrer.
Tomorrow i ll go back and start at the top in the atrium and go all the way down and give all demonstrators another chance

 

Like porn it’s fluff

Al, just like audio, there's good porn and bad porn, and it all depends on personal taste!

What I found interesting is there isn't a whole lot of consensus about great sound at the Munich Show. Or am I missing input on other threads?

 

No i don t think there is a consensus .
But is it nescessary'?
Striving for it usually ends in nasty discussions

 

Lol.

My worst $$$ for sound system was the Kharma room with the bigger kharmas and their own amps.
With R koda the small ones sounded nice afaik.
At least a system where i could relax without getting anoyed immediately

MBL which usually takes this prize ime , sounded nice this time i thought
they were well set up.

Yes, that was poor as well. BTW. the speakers were the same in both rooms.

 

The ones I liked:

I loved the Admire audio room.....
I liked the momentum with the Wilsons......especially for the scale
Goebel was good. Powerful and went down without overhang
The absolare with the Aviors sounded really nice today though I am biased
The thrax room with the 300b amps sounded superb
I loved the darts powering the Stenheim ref
Stein music - the smaller horn speaker was spectacular and so were the big ones
YG summits with the Burmester electronics sounded really nice

The Let down:
Kharma sounded bad....period
Avant-garde even worse. The bass was boomy. Maybe that particular song, but I didn’t like it overall

Did you go to Aries Cerat? Viva? Living Voice? Alsyvox? Diptyque? Stein Music? Odeon? hORNS ? Cessaro?