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In my case I can just hit play

Taiko Audio said:

No I doubt that. The errors in the Roon logs say network timeout. It does not seem to matter if it’s streaming or NAS playback, it can even timeout on the internal network (between Roon Appliance and Roon RAAT). The challenge in solving this is we’ve only managed to recreate it here for a brief period of time. I’ve tried rolling back to the Roon build which caused it here but it was just gone. So this is going to need a few patient volunteers I’m afraid.

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I am fine letting you guys remote it to check the logs. How should we let you know when it occurs again?

Taiko Audio said:

No I doubt that. The errors in the Roon logs say network timeout. It does not seem to matter if it’s streaming or NAS playback, it can even timeout on the internal network (between Roon Appliance and Roon RAAT). The challenge in solving this is we’ve only managed to recreate it here for a brief period of time. I’ve tried rolling back to the Roon build which caused it here but it was just gone. So this is going to need a few patient volunteers I’m afraid.

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I'm more than willing to be a guinea pig, if it's useful. I've tried tracking stoppages in various ways and can detect some patterns, but nothing 100% consistent. In virtually every case, the "Roon" stoppage occurs no more than 1 time per day, almost always at night but occasionally during the day when I've got a long (< 1-day in length) playlist running (either sequentially or in random order).
One experiment: I'd keep a running playlist going past midnight (to run "all night"); my battery recharge times are at the default midnight-7am, so I knew I'd be running into/through that timeframe. Very consistently (in fact 100% in the handful of times I tried that experiment) the playlist hung--Roon stopped playing, whether due to Roon or the O hiccup) about 15-18 minutes after midnight).
On most other days--I'd call it 90% of the time?--I can play the same playlists virtually all day without a hitch. But just stopping Roon before midnight still does not make a difference. Usually I have to still do a soft reboot each morning. Then Roon is running again all day without a hitch.
When Roon "hangs" on me, the playlist just stops, apparently, and looks as if I could just restart it by pressing play. But when I do, it hesitates for a few seconds and then just begins to skip from that disc to the next one slowly, with nothing being played, one after another.
I've got lots of other things on my home network that run at night and I check Fing regularly for network and connectivity issues, etc., so I do not *think* this is specific to my Internet connectivity or home/Taiko networks. But what do I know!
Anyway, I report not to complain, but just to provide some specifics that are very consistent in my system and seems unrelated to specific Roon updates (again, what do I know...). And if my logs (or 'tests' I can perform) help out in any way, please let me know. From a practical standpoint, all I have to do routinely is a 5-second soft reboot each morning and I'm good for the day! And loving it.
Jerry

Latest Roon sounds fine... To me.

At T.H.E. Show Costa Mesa 2025 Vassil, the North American distributor of Taiko Audio, was able to get us -- kind courtesy of ray-dude -- a Taiko Olympus server with the built-in DAC and a Taiko router. I have been hearing for way over a year that the built-in DAC is a giant killer, and can eliminate extra boxes with its all-in-one solution.

All I know is that our digital playback sounded fantastic!

Thanks very much to Vassil who is by both wonderful personality and technical knowledge, skill and experience the most amazing brand ambassador and distributor for Taiko I could possibly imagine! Team Taiko is very lucky to have Vassil handling things in the United States and Canada!

And from my own experience, not only for the clients of the United States

Taiko Audio said:

Just noticed this:

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That is pretty wild that it can distinguish how long you have been with Roon. I find this interesting on a number of levels...hmmm...

nonesup said:

And from my own experience, not only for the clients of the United States

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Very much so, even us Canadians

John T said:

That is pretty wild that it can distinguish how long you have been with Roon. I find this interesting on a number of levels...hmmm...

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Well, Roon started in 2015, so I'm guessing this note is more a Roon self-celebration, not some potentially disturbing tracking going on.

jbrrp1 said:

Well, Roon started in 2015, so I'm guessing this note is more a Roon self-celebration, not some potentially disturbing tracking going on.

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I think you are right but I wouldn’t consider it “tracking’ for a company to know how long you have had a subscription. I get anniversary notices all the time from online subscriptions.

I didn't think anything was devious about it. For some strange reason it caught me off guard...

Steve williams said:

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That Olympus & IO up that high must of been a real challenge

Every audiophile/pinball collector 's best friend (I'm long past the days where the chief civilian in the house would offer to help with equipment moves...the lift is essential)

ray-dude said:

https://www.harborfreight.com/500-lb-capacity-hydraulic-table-cart-70726.html

Every audiophile/pinball collector 's best friend (I'm long past the days where the chief civilian in the house would offer to help with equipment moves...the lift is essential)

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Been wanting to buy one but need one that will reach a tailgate . I will be getting one very soon

jbrrp1 said:

Well, Roon started in 2015, so I'm guessing this note is more a Roon self-celebration, not some potentially disturbing tracking going on.

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Before Roon, the team behind it had a product called Sooloos, first on its own, and later as part of Meridian. Sooloos was like a breath of fresh air, compared to the competion and, despite certain system limitations, I liked it a lot. As soon as I heard the team were about to release a new product called Roon, and there was going to be a beta run for it, I signed up! The first iteration of Roon was basic compared to what the software offers currently, but already containing functionality not offered elsewhere, and it had a clean, beautiful, and hugely intuitive interface. After the public release, I wrote the first major review, and, apparently, that was 10 years ago now...

ray-dude said:

https://www.harborfreight.com/500-lb-capacity-hydraulic-table-cart-70726.html

Every audiophile/pinball collector 's best friend (I'm long past the days where the chief civilian in the house would offer to help with equipment moves...the lift is essential)

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I hired professional movers. Last week, FedEx delivered my Olympus on a pallet jack up my steep driveway and just into my attached garage. I made sure I met the driver in the street and made sure we agreed on a plan for getting it into my house. FedEx's delivery communications were good so I was able to be ready on the day of delivery. Realistically, that was the most I could hope for from a single FedEx driver in Seattle -- they were not going to struggle to carry the thing up stairs.

As an aside, I will say that the shipment arrived astonishingly quickly once it was picked up by FedEx at the Dangerous Goods location in the Netherlands. To wit, it was picked up on a Tuesday afternoon in the Netherlands. It was delivered to my house on the following Thursday afternoon. One stop in Memphis, then direct to Seattle and on the delivery truck the same morning.

I will also say that the Olympus sat in Dangerous Good for a really, really long time. My Olympus was completely assembled the last week in April. On or around April 30, it was sent to Dangerous Goods. I would have been ready to accept delivery in early May. Then I was out of town for two weeks and I asked Taiko to put a hold on delivery. I was again ready to accept delivery as of May 21. But it continued to sit at DG for almost another two weeks. Both Julien and Vassil explained that Taiko has no control over when a shipment leaves Dangerous Goods. They also explained that DG has been backed up due to a large volume of shipments (tariffs largely to blame), large shippers getting higher priority, a move to a different DG warehouse in May, and several national Dutch holidays. All in all, a perfect storm. Hopefully things are already smoother for folks who are still waiting.

Getting back to the actual delivery in Seattle, the professional movers I hired (two really strong Samoan guys) arrived the same day that the Olympus was delivered. They undid the shrink wrap on the flight case, moved the case off the pallet and then carried the flight case (by hand) down my steep driveway, up a steep sidewalk (we live on a very steep hill), up a full flight of stairs and then up another half flight of stairs to my front door.

That door opens into our living room, which is also the listening room. After placing the flight case on a rug, I opened it. One guy then very carefully lifted the 130 pound Olympus to a location just in front of my Finite Elemente Pagode rack (I had moved out my speakers to clear a pathway in front of the rack).

Then the two guys carefully lifted and placed the Olympus on my bottom shelf, only touching the bottom of the machine (they had kindly volunteered to wash their hands in advance of the operation). I supervised while they made very small movements to get the Olympus precisely centered on the bottom rack. I do not expect I'll be moving it for many years unless I were to try after market footers, in which case I'll probably use an air bladder to lift the machine while inserting footers one by one (air bladders are very cheap and very effective for this sort of job). The whole thing took about half an hour.

Hiring professional movers was expensive, around $500 USD including 10.5% local tax and a nice tip for the movers. Moving companies typically have a minimum charge; in this case they charted $70 an hour per mover and a three-hour minimum. That's just the going rate in Seattle for professional movers doing a single-item move. They also had to drive from their last move location, which was a good 40 minutes away.

For me, it was worth it both for the convenience and peace of mind. I could have attempted to recruit friends, risking their health and my health. I could have used an internet handyman service like TaskRabbit but I have serious doubts about the quality of the "product." I could have bought a hydraulic lift like Ray suggested above, but that would not have solved the problem of going up and down stairs and steep slopes. Nor would it have solved the problem of moving the Olympus from the shelf on the lift to the bottom shelf on my rack. Considering the cost of the Olympus and the need to take precautions to ensure a safe move (for my house, the Olympus, and myself), $500 seems reasonable.

Just my two cents.