Lampizator Horizon360 - Broadening Our Musical Horizons

[ctydwn]

with all due respect, the horizon 360 is one of the best dacs on the planet for over $60k usd. and that is just with stock tubes. the value of this dac increases substantially with proven tube combos. having rolled over one hundred tubes in the 360. i can safely say the sound quality is easily 25% better with available tube offerings. and, as i mentioned $30-40k preamps do not elevate the performance imho. a massive testament to lampizator. but higher end preamps still deliver, as they should.

 

[godofwealth]

I’m too wedded to ARC preamps to consider anything else. I’ve used them for 30+ years. And with my ultra massive 200-pound a piece ARC 750SE monoblocks, it’s just a match made in heaven. You haven’t heard an amplifier till you hear what 750 watts of tube power buys you. But that’s because I use 9-foot tall Soundlab G9-7c’s as my reference loudspeakers. Electrostatics are tough loads with impedances over 30 ohms in the bass and < 2 ohms in the treble. They’re not like box loudspeakers that are current driven. Electrostatics are voltage driven. You’ve got to be able to swing massive voltages into high impedances and tolerate highly capacitive loads. So, I’ll stick with ARC. But I’d like a pure no-volume-control DAC from Lampi. That’s why I’m sticking with my Pacific. It’s a pure DAC. No volume control. Don’t need one in my Lampi, don’t want one, thank you very much! Unless Lukasz changes his mind and gives me a pure Horizon DAC with DHT tubes and no volume control!

 

[simonthepieman]

with all due respect, the horizon 360 is one of the best dacs on the planet for over $60k usd. and that is just with stock tubes. the value of this dac increases substantially with proven tube combos. having rolled over one hundred tubes in the 360. i can safely say the sound quality is easily 25% better with available tube offerings. and, as i mentioned $30-40k preamps do not elevate the performance imho. a massive testament to lampizator. but higher end preamps still deliver, as they should.

Which are your current (preferred outcome after all your rolling)
tubes in the 360 ?

 

[godofwealth]

Just installed a quartet of NOS Western Electric 101D tubes with the WE 274b in my Pacific. What a gorgeous sound these WE tubes have! Lifts my Pacific into a completely different category of DAC. These are pricey and rare tubes, but the WE 101D tubes have an estimated lifetime of 40,000 hours. These tubes may outlive me!

 

[AKlein555]

Hi all - I’m new to the Horizon 360 and am in the process of tube rolling from the stock tubes. My current setup. Just purchased NOS WE 350B power tubes and a WE 274A. I’m using RCA Special Red driver tubes - and currently have Tak 274B rectifier and KR KT-88 power tubes.

Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.

 

[Steve williams]

Love that copper top.

Enjoy the tube rolling. Above all. Have fun. Verify any unknown tube with @LampiNA or Lukasz

 

[rspyder]

Welcome to the club!!

I'd suggest that you visit the WBF thread entitled "Tube Rolling Paradise", which started with the H1 and has expanded to the H360. Be aware that the "Paradise" can feel more like Purgatory to the extent rolling becomes an obsession. Remember, the end of the journey depends on the sound you prefer. So, tube choice should be governed by your ears and not those of others.

Ray

 

[John T]

Hi all - I’m new to the Horizon 360 and am in the process of tube rolling from the stock tubes. My current setup. Just purchased NOS WE 350B power tubes and a WE 274A. I’m using RCA Special Red driver tubes - and currently have Tak 274B rectifier and KR KT-88 power tubes.

Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.

Take @rspyder advice! Let your ears influence your decisions for what sounds good to you in your system. Don't do as I did and just buy because you hear something on the forum. Take your time and you will know when you hit your stride. Check with Lampizator on tubes. I've recently run into situations in which VERY FAMILIAR tubes that worked fine in other H1/360, all of a sudden don't behave well in the 360...