Abbas dac 2.1 se
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Wow good to know!!
This will mean checking the -V on the 5Y3. but more bottles replacing the diodes I am happy
I understood they belonged to the 3.2 sig but would confirm with correspondence from Abbas the same.
@Artnet
Here’s the reply I received.
“Hi, Charles!
YES OF COURSe, 5Y3 will be installed on the analog board
No need everyday to measure bias, once per year
5Y3 can be easily replaced with 5V4, it is a more powerful tube. One 5V4 is already used on a digital board, so you can use two 5V4.
But I like 5Y3 for smooth and fluid sound
Regards,Abbas”
Here’s the reply I received.
“Hi, Charles!
YES OF COURSe, 5Y3 will be installed on the analog board
No need everyday to measure bias, once per year
5Y3 can be easily replaced with 5V4, it is a more powerful tube. One 5V4 is already used on a digital board, so you can use two 5V4.
But I like 5Y3 for smooth and fluid sound
Regards,Abbas”
@Artnet
You are welcome. I’m excited with this decision to use these two rectifier tubes in the 3.2SE . I believe that additions or changes are implemented only if Abbas confirmed an improved sound quality.
He’s continuously refining and upgrading his devices (As he refers to them). Great for us! This is exactly why I don’t mind the relatively long wait time.Worth it in my opinion.
Charles
You are welcome. I’m excited with this decision to use these two rectifier tubes in the 3.2SE . I believe that additions or changes are implemented only if Abbas confirmed an improved sound quality.
He’s continuously refining and upgrading his devices (As he refers to them). Great for us! This is exactly why I don’t mind the relatively long wait time.Worth it in my opinion.
Charles
That's what I got from Abbas:
DAC 3.2SE: 6080 output stage, + 5Y3+ 5V4+ EZ81+ EF12+EZ11, TDA1541A
DAC 3.2 Signature: different (look at his website), but he has no components at the moment (also the 5 models he created (reserved) are gone).
I'm pretty sure he also adjust/improves several things for signature, for the average DAC consumer ;-)
@gerihifi
Agreed, it isn’t the Signature, but is the latest iteration of the 3.2SE. This DAC utilizes 7 tubes! That’s 1 more than in my 300b SET mono blocks combined. Yet these are essentially low maintenance and long lifespan tubes (Particularly the EF12 and EZ11). I am also intrigued by the preference of Germanium over silicon based transistors (For the most part).
As I’ve continued to learn and understand more about these DACs, it’s become increasingly clear and logical why this approach is chosen. I also appreciate that the choice of tubes are available for low to reasonable cost (Compared to my 300b and 101D tubes used in my other components).
As I’ve mentioned before, just sheer coincidence that I came across this thread while searching for something else. Audio forums have served me well over the years. There has been very good information shared within this thread.
Charles
Agreed, it isn’t the Signature, but is the latest iteration of the 3.2SE. This DAC utilizes 7 tubes! That’s 1 more than in my 300b SET mono blocks combined. Yet these are essentially low maintenance and long lifespan tubes (Particularly the EF12 and EZ11). I am also intrigued by the preference of Germanium over silicon based transistors (For the most part).
As I’ve continued to learn and understand more about these DACs, it’s become increasingly clear and logical why this approach is chosen. I also appreciate that the choice of tubes are available for low to reasonable cost (Compared to my 300b and 101D tubes used in my other components).
As I’ve mentioned before, just sheer coincidence that I came across this thread while searching for something else. Audio forums have served me well over the years. There has been very good information shared within this thread.
Charles
Hi @facten
Abbas has posted directions on his website and will include directions with the DAC if needed. It’s a simple step to perform (And only required annually).
Charles
Have a look at the picture (open in new tab to see everything) DAC 3.2 Signature Reveal (EN) / 2 — Abbasaudio - shows at least how it works for Signature ;-) But Abbas will for sure provide tips to you if needed!
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I would be very interested to hear the views of the owner of the Lampi Big 7 and how it compares with the Abbas 3.2se. I have a Lampi Golden Atlantic TRP but am thinking about upgrading/changing it and the Abbas 3.2se sounds like it could be an affordable alternative to the models further up the Lampi pecking order.
@dwhistance
I had a Golden Gate I SE, here is my experience with the DAC!
I had received a new Golden Gate I SE in 2018 via the german Lampizator distributor Pawel. The sound improvement when switching from Level 4 to the GG was overwhelming.
An audiophile friend who was listening to the GG in my system took out a credit and also ordered a GG.
A few months later I sent the GG to the manufacturer in poland because I wanted to change the 300b to 45 tube. In the modification was a component of the new Pacific installed.
They didn't tell me which component was installed, but the sound improvement was clearly hearable.
Half a year later, my audiophile friend told me that his GG no longer sounded as good as it did in the beginning. He tried different tubes, bringing improvement only for a short time. Lampizator could not find any failure in his device, so he finally sold his GG.
About a year after the purchase, the sound quality of my GG also started to get progressively worse.
I sent the DAC to Poland for inspection, but no failure was found.
Another audiophile friend recommended I listen to a Denafrips DAC. Because I needed a DAC upgrade for my headphone setup, I ordered a Denafrips Pontus.
I compared the Pontus to the GG on the loudspeaker setup. The Pontus outperformed the GG by several sound levels, much like the GG outperformed the Level 4 back then.
Finally, the Holo MAY KTE has won out over Terminator Plus. Anyway, after my experience with Lampizator, I wouldn't buy one again.
I hope your Atlantic had no sound worsening .
Although my MAY KTE sounds fantastic, in this thread I got infected with Abbas fever and also ordered an Abbas DAC.
I had a Golden Gate I SE, here is my experience with the DAC!
I had received a new Golden Gate I SE in 2018 via the german Lampizator distributor Pawel. The sound improvement when switching from Level 4 to the GG was overwhelming.
An audiophile friend who was listening to the GG in my system took out a credit and also ordered a GG
.A few months later I sent the GG to the manufacturer in poland because I wanted to change the 300b to 45 tube. In the modification was a component of the new Pacific installed.
They didn't tell me which component was installed, but the sound improvement was clearly hearable.
Half a year later, my audiophile friend told me that his GG no longer sounded as good as it did in the beginning. He tried different tubes, bringing improvement only for a short time. Lampizator could not find any failure in his device, so he finally sold his GG.
About a year after the purchase, the sound quality of my GG also started to get progressively worse.
I sent the DAC to Poland for inspection, but no failure was found.
Another audiophile friend recommended I listen to a Denafrips DAC. Because I needed a DAC upgrade for my headphone setup, I ordered a Denafrips Pontus.
I compared the Pontus to the GG on the loudspeaker setup. The Pontus outperformed the GG by several sound levels, much like the GG outperformed the Level 4 back then.
Finally, the Holo MAY KTE has won out over Terminator Plus. Anyway, after my experience with Lampizator, I wouldn't buy one again.
I hope your Atlantic had no sound worsening .
Although my MAY KTE sounds fantastic, in this thread I got infected with Abbas fever and also ordered an Abbas DAC
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Yes, it’d be nice to see the listening impressions from “lampi man” comparing the B7 MK II and his 3.2SE. Different design approaches for certain.
Charles
On the topic of Signature:
I was in contact with Abbas since two weeks and it was not clear until today if Abbas will build the Signature for me or not.
Abbas writes about the comparison between 3.2 SE and Signature as follows:
(I had to cut the text a bit and translated it from Russian into English via translator)
The difference in the level of realism, color and nuances.
I demonstrated the Signature to my friends who are not audiophiles and to an electrician who was working in my house. They all clearly noticed the difference between the 3.2 SE and the Signature and were very surprised.
He is not sure he will build the Signature again anytime soon or if he will build it at all.
It takes an unreasonable amount of time. He made a batch to improve hes skill, as I could have earned much more in that time by offering simpler models.
Abbas agreed today to build for me the Signature. He has one kit left for a Signature.
He told me, that a Signature takes five times more time to build than a 3.2 SE. Knowing that, I offered to pay him more, to make it pay off for him at least a little bit. He declined and offered to build an improved Signature instead, one like his private one.
He warned me, that I will have to wait, because he has a lot of 3.2 SE orders.
I was in contact with Abbas since two weeks and it was not clear until today if Abbas will build the Signature for me or not.
Abbas writes about the comparison between 3.2 SE and Signature as follows:
(I had to cut the text a bit and translated it from Russian into English via translator)
The difference in the level of realism, color and nuances.
I demonstrated the Signature to my friends who are not audiophiles and to an electrician who was working in my house. They all clearly noticed the difference between the 3.2 SE and the Signature and were very surprised.
He is not sure he will build the Signature again anytime soon or if he will build it at all.
It takes an unreasonable amount of time. He made a batch to improve hes skill, as I could have earned much more in that time by offering simpler models.
Abbas agreed today to build for me the Signature. He has one kit left for a Signature.
He told me, that a Signature takes five times more time to build than a 3.2 SE. Knowing that, I offered to pay him more, to make it pay off for him at least a little bit. He declined and offered to build an improved Signature instead, one like his private one.
He warned me, that I will have to wait, because he has a lot of 3.2 SE orders.
@dwhistance
Although my MAY KTE sounds fantastic, in this thread I got infected with Abbas fever and also ordered an Abbas DAC
Wow! Abbas fever indeed. Seems like theres a lot of orders going to ukraine at the moment. Hopefully abbas can keep up.
Ive asked lampi man for comments. Hope he’ll chip in.
Meanwhile i spotted two reviews of the new 2.4se (i think) on abbas’ old website:
http://abbasaudio.listbb.ru/viewtopic.php?f=74&t=7&start=230
I lived with a May KTE for a few weeks. I'll be very interested to hear your report. Please do post when you've got enough hours under your belt.@dwhistance
I had a Golden Gate I SE, here is my experience with the DAC!
I had received a new Golden Gate I SE in 2018 via the german Lampizator distributor Pawel. The sound improvement when switching from Level 4 to the GG was overwhelming.
An audiophile friend who was listening to the GG in my system took out a credit and also ordered a GG
A few months later I sent the GG to the manufacturer in poland because I wanted to change the 300b to 45 tube. In the modification was a component of the new Pacific installed.
They didn't tell me which component was installed, but the sound improvement was clearly hearable.
Half a year later, my audiophile friend told me that his GG no longer sounded as good as it did in the beginning. He tried different tubes, bringing improvement only for a short time. Lampizator could not find any failure in his device, so he finally sold his GG.
About a year after the purchase, the sound quality of my GG also started to get progressively worse.
I sent the DAC to Poland for inspection, but no failure was found.
Another audiophile friend recommended I listen to a Denafrips DAC. Because I needed a DAC upgrade for my headphone setup, I ordered a Denafrips Pontus.
I compared the Pontus to the GG on the loudspeaker setup. The Pontus outperformed the GG by several sound levels, much like the GG outperformed the Level 4 back then.
Finally, the Holo MAY KTE has won out over Terminator Plus. Anyway, after my experience with Lampizator, I wouldn't buy one again.
I hope your Atlantic had no sound worsening .
Although my MAY KTE sounds fantastic, in this thread I got infected with Abbas fever and also ordered an Abbas DAC
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